zeta1
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Even though I'm lean? I'll get my body measurements+bf% next Sunday
The dbol was shit at one point I took 80mg of dbol and didn't feel anything , it's Omega Labs dbol 20mg/pill
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Even though I'm lean? I'll get my body measurements+bf% next Sunday
The dbol was shit at one point I took 80mg of dbol and didn't feel anything , it's Omega Labs dbol 20mg/pill
HIGHRISK
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It all couldn't of been that bad if U put on 20lbs of anything. I put 35 on my first cycle but I also ate like a maniac. Lost about half when I came off. Then maintained that until recently.
zeta1
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I have to say that I've been on my diet 99% clean , my trainer gave me Sunday to eat 2 meals whatever I wanted but at different times for like 4 weeks than week 5 and until now I been eating a burger on Sunday and some corn tortilla steak tacos , but only Sunday the rest of week clean %
You didn't eat enough calories. I guarantee it.
zeta1
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Right now I'm at 3k+ calories and on Sunday I know I'm most likely around 4-4500ks
Once I'm off cycle we'll need to adjust that accordingly since body won't be in perfect harmony like on cycle and the protein synthesis won't be same either
HIGHRISK
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Post your Sunday diet. I can almost but guarante your not close to 4,500 unless your just straight eating fried chicken and McDonald's all day. I thought the same shit. Was eating like crazy and pretty clean. Someone told me the same shit. So I tracked my food for an entire day and ate extra. I thought to prove my point to my friend. Turned out to be about 3,700 cals and about 400 grams of carbs and 200 grams of protein. I couldn't believe it.
zeta1
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Here let me write it down, Sunday is burger and taco day, here it is
10 egg whites
3 corn tortillas
1 banana
1 cup oats
1 serving bcaas
2 whole wheat sandwich
7pz chicken breast
1/2 avocado
Double burger with fries, sometimes info bacon burger but it's always double with fries and no soda
Corn tortilla steak tacos as many as I wish, only corn tortillas
7oz chicken breast
1 cup vegetables
2 cups white rice
10 egg whites
1 cup vegetables
1 serving glutamine
2 corn tortillas
Here you go this is my Sunday diet pretty much
HIGHRISK
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I tried to be specific as I could and even added extra portion sizes because obviously I'm unsure how much steak or fries your eating. But as a generic template here ya go.
Protein 276 grams
Carbs 348grams
Fat 88 grams
Sodium 2374 grams
Sugar 32 grams
CALORIES 3,436
Now I guarantee I'm off but not by 1,000!
zeta1
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I entered everything on MFP and used used generic stuff and it was 3001 kals, how many calories in a double burger with cheese and fries? Has to be over 500 easily
This is only Sunday, rest of week I'm on schedule if anything I'll eat extra fruit or some oatmeal when still hungry and recently started eating a protein bar since I go to gym straight after work on some days and I need some calories in system before hitting gym
HIGHRISK
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That's what I used was MFP. Like I said I even went over board on some of your foods and only hit 3,400
That was my point is that you weren't eating as much as you thought you were. It happens to most everyone who thinks there eating a lot. 4,500 cals is hard to bang down everyday consistently.
zeta1
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Here let me show you my regular momday-sat diet plan and see if adding a weight gainer helps, it's a homemade weight gainer supposed to be around 1000kals
Here we go. . .
10 egg whites
3 corn tortillas
1 cup oatmeal
1 banana
1 serving bcaas
Post workout meal
2 scoops ISO 100 protein
7oz sweet potato/1 cup oatmeal if I'm out of sweet potato I'll add the cup of oatmeal in the shake but sometimes I'll eat both like when I train legs
1 banana
1 serving creatine/glutamine
2 whole wheat sandwiches
7oz chicken breast, light mayo, onion, tomato, mustard, 1/2 avocado, lettuce
7oz chicken breast
2 potatoes
1 cup vegetables
7oz chicken breast
2 cups white
1 cup vegetables
10 egg whites
1 cup vegetables
2 corn tortillas
2 serving glutamine
HIGHRISK
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Why just egg whites? You cutting your calories in half by just eating egg whites. Your trying to out on size eat the whole damn egg. I'm not sure about 20 eggs a day that might be a bit much. In my opinion you need white rice, potatoes,pasta,breads. Your not gonna do much with just chicken and eggs. You need some meat. Hamburger,steak,porkchops,corn bread,broccoli,brown rice,fairlife milk. You know hearty food.
HIGHRISK
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Luckily for me I've never had that problem I guess lucky? Mine the opposite. I can eat and gain like horse but I play hell getting it off
zeta1
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Ingot blessed with the lean body type but need to eat a lot to add quality mass, i don't want to dirty bulk and can't have high carbs + high fats only one can be high so my trainer added the high carbs, i make it simple so when it's time to add calories we increase portions same food though, I tried pasta and it was giving me this feeling of bloated and I didn't like it one bit so we went back to chicken and and , just make those portions bigger when needed but gotta keep watch too, don't want to eat overboard and gain more fat than muscle, no need to add fat then cut down later on, right now I'm really lean and feel great after my meals, 0 bloated feeling
HIGHRISK
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I completely understand. I'm sure you know that no matter what you take you have to eat to get big. And not chicken and eggs either. When u put on size your gonna get some fat there's not much you can do but limit that. Hence "bulking" Hell everyone's goal is to put on muscle without putting fat on but unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
zeta1
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I'm aware of that, muscle and fat go hand in hand but you can do things to reduce how much fat you gain vs muscle, eating everything in sight will put on weight but but the good kind lol that's what I don't want to do, but hey I'll add some lean cuts in meal plan too if it fits my macros and lifestyle
I'm going to regret asking but, why can only carbs or fat be high?
Dirty bulk is a misleading term... You'll never get big on the stereotypical clean foods.
zeta1
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That is a great question tbh, and I don't have a proven fact answer to it only what I've read and heard, and what I've seen on calorie calculators is the different types of macros distribution, which is high protein, high carbs and low fat, or the other high protein moderate carbs and fat and you can't forget the high protein low carbs and high far diet
As far as the dirty bulking, my understanding is to just eat and eat everything in sight to put on weight but since your not watching what you eat you'll most likely end up high fat low muscle since the body can only build so much muscle naturally, it's like if you have a 5 gallon bucket if you go over 5 gallon it's gonna spill and it's all gonna be stored as fat, just have to find that sweet spot and work from there
You're probably hurting yourself doing this. You need "high" fat out of necessity... Steak, eggs, butter, avocado, etc.
Conversely, you need "high" carbs for performance. Potatoes, bread, rice, fruit, etc.
It's always the skinny lean guys that have these off the wall setups with their diet, I guess out of fear of getting fat? I don't know. It's usually the same reason they'll never get yoked.
If you must track your calories to bulk... figure out what your baseline caloric intake needs to be, stay no less than 500 calories above it. You'd probably be fine at 1000cal above. Get a gram of protein per lb of bodyweight, get the rest of your calories from whatever you want. You don't need high fat or low carbs or visa versa... You're making it unnecessarily hard on yourself.
Gbro
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Dirty food: hamburger
Clean food: piece of beef for protein, two slices of bread for grains, a lettuce and tomato salad for complex carbs, and some cheese for dairy.
Clean food: piece of beef for protein, two slices of bread for grains, a lettuce and tomato salad for complex carbs, and some cheese for dairy.
