So it's not happening yet but I plan on doing Test E (starting at maybe 300mg/week) and going from there. Plan on running aromasin (12.5) on cycle, should I continue throughout pct? Pct was gonna be clomid, I know many say clomi & nolva while others say to go with one or the other.... Would throwing some winnie tabs or var tabs at the end be a bad idea, kind of to just tighten it all up towards the end..... I appreciate the feedback!!!
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
First cycle, thoughts..?
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fldoms980
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You look like you're on the right track. First off bump the test up to 500-600. I keep the ai going until pct's finished, controls estro rebound and lower estrogen stimulates more natural testosterone production. As for the oral at the end, I personally wouldn't but it's really personal choice. You will be blown away with gains on a test only first cycle as long as your gear is quality and you're running it high enough, save the orals for your next cycle.
xy5jn0
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500 is usually kinda standard. 300 will work but you're going to be shut down anyway and your gains will be better at 500.
If you're doing fine and not battling sides you could add the var. You'll already be familiar with the test so if you encounter any problems you'll know it's the var. It's not known to be very harsh so it's a good oral to add. Being an oral it also clears quickly which will help if you have to drop it.
Good luck bro. Remember, it takes about 4-5 weeks for the magic to really kick in.
If you're doing fine and not battling sides you could add the var. You'll already be familiar with the test so if you encounter any problems you'll know it's the var. It's not known to be very harsh so it's a good oral to add. Being an oral it also clears quickly which will help if you have to drop it.
Good luck bro. Remember, it takes about 4-5 weeks for the magic to really kick in.
Thanks @xy5jn0 and @fldoms980
DonQKong
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Agree, up it to 500. You'll have awesome gains on your first cycle. About the var or Vinnie, I'd stay away from it. Learn to know your poison, add one new per cycle, and the reason for that is two-fold - firstly, you get to know and understand the pros and cons of the given steroid, and you get to understand how to maximise gains and mitigate sides. That is beyond useful when you start combining more complex compounds and shit starts happening. Secondly, later in your career, you want to be able to pull out extra cards out your sleeve as the effects wear down. If you play all your cards in the first cycles, you won't be able to benefit from them later downstream.
Take that as a lesson from someone who learnt it the hard way.
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Take that as a lesson from someone who learnt it the hard way.
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