First cycle.

[Mac11wildcat]

That’s awesome who’s gear are you running? I want in on some of this pipless prop. I mean injecting 150 of prop in your delt and not feeling any kind of bite is bad ass!! Must be from a top notch lab.

Orr...the alternative lol. Which I hope isn’t true.

 

[Morefyah]

Orr...the alternative lol. Which I hope isn’t true.

I was being slightly facetious. Of course it’s from sas, 150mg prop in to virgin delt muscle and zero pip. Makes you wonder??

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I was being slightly facetious. Of course it’s from sas, 150mg prop in to virgin delt muscle and zero pip. Makes you wonder??

Internet getting in the way of effective communication lol. We’re on the same page...which is unfortunate....

 

[tengtren]

Hmm

 

[enigma34]

I have prop from PC and para pharma. But wanted to try a domestic first. After three weeks I'll get blood work. But yeah mix reviews on prop and it being painfull or not. Some say it's great brew if it's no pip, or depends on what is used to brew it.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I have prop from PC and para pharma. But wanted to try a domestic first. After three weeks I'll get blood work. But yeah mix reviews on prop and it being painfull or not. Some say it's great brew if it's no pip, or depends on what is used to brew it.

Zero pip in virgin muscle with heavy prop just sounds too good to be true...

 

[Holidaypay]

I think im allergic to prop every time I use I get a pounding headache for 2 days an exhausted as well never had with e c or any other ester test hope u gt lucky an ur muscles just deal with it really well lol

 

[enigma34]

Because you mentioned it, I might have some minor head pressure /headache 9 hours after pin. I notice it at night, I pin AM before gym.

 

[enigma34]

From the first delt inj, that tricep is sore maybe a slight red shade on upper tricep. Don't remember bumping into anything feels like a bruise not painfull though. Noticed it yesterday, today I think it's going away. CoulD oil have sinked down as that inj was standing and want 90-70‘. Did other delt this morning with the elbow table trick, no issues.

 

[enigma34]

From the first delt inj, that tricep is sore maybe a slight red shade on upper tricep. Don't remember bumping into anything feels like a bruise not painfull though. Noticed it yesterday, today I think it's going away. CoulD oil have sinked down as that inj was standing and want 90-70‘. Did other delt this morning with the elbow table trick, no issues.

I feel like a wake-up ready, and my workouts I seem to be putting more effort in cone towards weights I'd tire quicker from and lower the sets from that. So I'm doing more sets and reps with weight that would normally tax me . Also haven't felt like using the wrist straps . So doing the same weight more reps without them. To note Diet has changed though, every payday diet changes to more calls for that week. been like. That for a year. Protein stays the same.

 

[enigma34]

Just over one week left for the blood work. I wanted to wait to get that before starting an AI. But I think my estrogen is elevated, I don't think I feel any signs that are bothering me but I feel being slightly more tired than the first weweek after my workouts and on odd sensation in my ears sometimes, and I pee alot less than natty and seem to be drinking even more so after than before witch was average 1 1/2 gallons now I feel like I'm at 2 gallons and peeing alot less even with asparagus couple times a week. So my AI I started today at .25 cutting my 1mg tab x4. Will try. 25 twice week.

 

[enigma34]

Update

Did Pct few days after last pin, witch was on new year's eve. Two weeks 100/50 then half week 50/20 clomid nolva. I used hcg during. I felt I recovered 20days in Pct so stopped taking the meds.

Now my drive and quality of life went down. My dick works fine, but the drive of getting out of bed and stuff, has been bad since the few days after the test prop left my system. My life was fantastic on gear. So I've decided to spend more time a year on gear than off. Going from my 10 week to a 7 month blast/cruise/blast/PCT and repeate. I was going to pct after this and go back on after two months but I might start back on as soon as Feb 1st and blast3 trt1 blast3 pct1-2months . Life is short and my quality of life was better on.

 

[Morefyah]

Well you didn’t recover or you wouldn’t feel like shit. You also completely wasted your hcg and pct meds. Lol, Now you want to go back on for seven more months and then run another pct. Dont bother with the pct my dude. You will now be a slave to the needle for the rest of your life.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Like @Morefyah said. Recovery is hard and you feel shitty cause your natural test is so low right now. If you go back on and do a 7 month cycle, your next PCT will be even harder.

You should pull bloods and see where you are with test level. I forget how old you are but if your in your 20s or 30s it’s too soon for TRT and the “slave to the needle”. Read up on PCT and consider doing the Dr Michael Scally PCT. get your test levels back and hold onto what you have. If you’re over 40 and done with kids you can go for TRT since you’ll likely need it sooner rather than later anyway.

 

[Havah]

Update

Did Pct few days after last pin, witch was on new year's eve. Two weeks 100/50 then half week 50/20 clomid nolva. I used hcg during. I felt I recovered 20days in Pct so stopped taking the meds.

Now my drive and quality of life went down. My dick works fine, but the drive of getting out of bed and stuff, has been bad since the few days after the test prop left my system. My life was fantastic on gear. So I've decided to spend more time a year on gear than off. Going from my 10 week to a 7 month blast/cruise/blast/PCT and repeate. I was going to pct after this and go back on after two months but I might start back on as soon as Feb 1st and blast3 trt1 blast3 pct1-2months . Life is short and my quality of life was better on.

This right there is why some people shouldnt start gear

 

[enigma34]

Well you didn’t recover or you wouldn’t feel like shit. You also completely wasted your hcg and pct meds. Lol, Now you want to go back on for seven more months and then run another pct. Dont bother with the pct my dude. You will now be a slave to the needle for the rest of your life.

The plan was to wait two month. But changed my mind. If I knew I was going to go back on i would have saved the pct meds. But I have years of Pct meds ,wasn't a real hit on the wallet.

I might or might not do bloods before going back on. I did my base and mid cycle bloods. I don't do a reason to get them again to know my stats if I want to pin for the rest of my life.

I came into this well knowledge and the only thing left was risk Vs rewards. I enjoyed all the rewards inside and out side the gym. So I'll pin rest of life if it's elevating my quality of life.

But for you guys, I'll get my bloods before I run this 7 months. So we can see if how I'm thinking is because low t or because this is the choice I want.


Also, I ran HCG during cycle. So recovery should be quicker.

Being on helped mend a still broken heart , my GF of three years left me before I did this.left me for the reason that she did not know how to support me using gear and this life style. My apt was a revolving door in December, was a nice distraction plus the gear helped a ton on mood. So I have more reason to "why not continue " and not pussy foot around. I already had a foundation, but 525test, and some tbol at the end I gained from 194lb to 217lb. And just want to keep going. Just came back to update.