first cyle hgh

[PinningRightNow]

Hello everyone, im looking to do my first cylce of hgh and test, was wondering if you guys could give me any advice in general. I am 25 I have been going to the gym for about 2 years and have decided that its time to start my first cycle. My cycle would consist of 4 ius of hgh and then 500 mg of test e. Once again any general advice/ what I could expect would be greatly appreciated as I am new to this

 

[Elektrobot]

HGH isn't something you cycle.

Also HGH at 25 is probably a waste

What was your natty IGF?

 

[riggspersonal]

Hello everyone, im looking to do my first cylce of hgh and test, was wondering if you guys could give me any advice in general. I am 25 I have been going to the gym for about 2 years and have decided that its time to start my first cycle. My cycle would consist of 4 ius of hgh and then 500 mg of test e. Once again any general advice/ what I could expect would be greatly appreciated as I am new to this

4iu is most likely too high of a starting dose. if you're going to run GH, start at 2iu max and titrate up +1iu every ~4 weeks while monitoring for early sides.

this is a good directional framework to follow - https://marlonjperalta.substack.com/p/the-trinity-everyone-is-talking-about

 

[adrenalytic]

You're not ready for steroids but I'm sure you believe you are so nothing we say is going to stop you.

That being said, you don't need 500 mg of test on a first cycle. You will grow on 250 just as well with less sides (assuming diet, training and sleep are dialed in which is unlikely at only 2 years in the gym).

And lower the GH to start as others have said. Good luck.

 

[Elektrobot]

this is a good directional framework to follow - https://marlonjperalta.substack.com/p/the-trinity-everyone-is-talking-about

............that link is just ai slop copied and pasted by someone who doesn't know what they are talking about

But it explains some of the newbie stuff people are coming here and reciting.

Its just drug user mentality, thinking injecting things is going to make up for the lack of effort and experience. No mention of nutrition. No mention of training.

Its like they think the only thing that will make a change in your physique is drugs.


If someone publishes something claiming that it will "transform you".......but the only things it mentions is drugs...........then there's your sign.

The only things that transform you are hard work, discipline, food and training.

You can't inject those

 

[tweek]

If you dont plan on staying on hgh for 8+ months then don't bother with it as its a long term game. I stay on year round

 

[Psy-chonaut]

From where did you buy the HGH?

Not allowed to talk about sourcing outside 'steroid underground' subforum....

Go read the 'New member' section for some of the most basic rules of this forum..

 

[lot827]

You're not ready for steroids but I'm sure you believe you are so nothing we say is going to stop you.

That being said, you don't need 500 mg of test on a first cycle. You will grow on 250 just as well with less sides (assuming diet, training and sleep are dialed in which is unlikely at only 2 years in the gym).

And lower the GH to start as others have said. Good luck.

Really? I was thinking 300mg for my first cycle, but a lot of people recommend 400-500 range so I thought I’d titrate up to 500mg during my first cycle. Any thoughts? Why is 500 the golden number here?

 

[adrenalytic]

Really? I was thinking 300mg for my first cycle, but a lot of people recommend 400-500 range so I thought I’d titrate up to 500mg during my first cycle. Any thoughts? Why is 500 the golden number here?

You simply don't need that much. Your androgen receptors are as sensitive to exogenous testosterone as they will ever be. You can only grow so fast. You will only invite more side effects, not more growth. If you stall, sure add a little more but honestly, if you stall it will likely be because of diet, recovery or training related - not because of drugs.

Maybe I'd do 300 but def no more than that. 500 is not a golden number, it's just what people who don't know any better like to toss around.

 

[lot827]

You simply don't need that much. Your androgen receptors are as sensitive to exogenous testosterone as they will ever be. You can only grow so fast. You will only invite more side effects, not more growth. If you stall, sure add a little more but honestly, if you stall it will likely be because of diet, recovery or training related - not because of drugs.

Maybe I'd do 300 but def no more than that. 500 is not a golden number, it's just what people who don't know any better like to toss around.

Yeah looks like well centered advice. I think I’ll stick to 300mg weekly until I stall and see from there. In terms of recovery, would adding HGH be noticeable at all? I’ve read that HGH should be really used long term. So a 20 week cycle with HGH wouldn’t really make sense yeah?

 

[adrenalytic]

Yeah looks like well centered advice. I think I’ll stick to 300mg weekly until I stall and see from there. In terms of recovery, would adding HGH be noticeable at all? I’ve read that HGH should be really used long term. So a 20 week cycle with HGH wouldn’t really make sense yeah?

that's wrong or worded badly. You absolutely should run HGH long term but only at a moderate dose of 2-4 IUs. If you run higher doses like you're talking about then yes, you should be careful. You need to have your Z-score checked regularly or you risk turning into a caveman.

As far as if it's noticeable for recovery? Idk, I've never not run HGH while on gear so I only know n=1.

 

[Hew_Danger]

4iu is most likely too high of a starting dose. if you're going to run GH, start at 2iu max and titrate up +1iu every ~4 weeks while monitoring for early sides.

this is a good directional framework to follow - https://marlonjperalta.substack.com/p/the-trinity-everyone-is-talking-about

Thanks for the read, I've seen the "trinity" mentioned a bunch on here but this is probably the deepest dive I've read on its synergy.