First real "cycle"

[Supradev]

Hey guys, so first i just want to introduce myself as this is my first post here. I'm 39 5'7 180 and pretty new to all of this. About 4 months ago a coworker and good friend started me on a "trt" dose of test e. He's been training and enhanced for years and looks incredible! I've always known or at least thought to myself he must be doing something?! So I started talking about wanting to get to the gym and really get the body I want! And also wanting to feel good! Cause yes i was experiencing signs of low test, always sluggish and tired, low sex drive and well you know rest. He was all about helping me out and excited to see what happened as he told me he could tell I had the right frame and genetics. Wide shoulders naturally big forearms, short stocky and still looking like I'm 21 lol ... I started stopping at his place every Friday on the way home so he could do my injection .. 250 a week.
It has changed my life!!! 4 months later and I feel amazing!! Full of energy and excitement! I'm walking up with full hard ons and even having morning sex again!! MORNING SEX!! Shit even day sex when I get home from work sometimes! My wife loves it for sure! Lol its been years! Since we have been screwing like rabbits lol
I changed my diet I stopped eating all shit food ( I'm still trying to really learn nutrition) I've never worried about it before but I'm eating better I'm training in the gym 4 - 5 days a week and I'm training better and harder every day! After just a couple months of really working out right Im seeing awesome results in the mirror!!! I'm hooked!! I'm planning to start a actual "cycle" the 1st of august. I'm waiting till then to give me time to continue working on getting everything else dialed in, diet, gym, body fat% etc ... So here's my plan for a first cycle

12 weeks
Test E - 300 weekly
DECA - 300 weekly
Primo - 300 weekly

Is this a smart plan? Can I expect a decent gain in mass and definition? Are AIs really needed?
Thanks all any input and advice is greatly appreciated!

 

[Test_Subject]

Hey guys, so first i just want to introduce myself as this is my first post here. I'm 39 5'7 180 and pretty new to all of this. About 4 months ago a coworker and good friend started me on a "trt" dose of test e. He's been training and enhanced for years and looks incredible! I've always known or at least thought to myself he must be doing something?! So I started talking about wanting to get to the gym and really get the body I want! And also wanting to feel good! Cause yes i was experiencing signs of low test, always sluggish and tired, low sex drive and well you know rest. He was all about helping me out and excited to see what happened as he told me he could tell I had the right frame and genetics. Wide shoulders naturally big forearms, short stocky and still looking like I'm 21 lol ... I started stopping at his place every Friday on the way home so he could do my injection .. 250 a week.
It has changed my life!!! 4 months later and I feel amazing!! Full of energy and excitement! I'm walking up with full hard ons and even having morning sex again!! MORNING SEX!! Shit even day sex when I get home from work sometimes! My wife loves it for sure! Lol its been years! Since we have been screwing like rabbits lol
I changed my diet I stopped eating all shit food ( I'm still trying to really learn nutrition) I've never worried about it before but I'm eating better I'm training in the gym 4 - 5 days a week and I'm training better and harder every day! After just a couple months of really working out right Im seeing awesome results in the mirror!!! I'm hooked!! I'm planning to start a actual "cycle" the 1st of august. I'm waiting till then to give me time to continue working on getting everything else dialed in, diet, gym, body fat% etc ... So here's my plan for a first cycle

12 weeks
Test E - 300 weekly
DECA - 300 weekly
Primo - 300 weekly

Is this a smart plan? Can I expect a decent gain in mass and definition? Are AIs really needed?
Thanks all any input and advice is greatly appreciated!

Since you’re new to this I’d drop the deca. It’s not a great starter compound and comes with potential issues.

The test and primo will get you there if your diet and training are both strong.

 

[Ironman580]

I would say run that - wouldn’t drop the deca at all

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Hey guys, so first i just want to introduce myself as this is my first post here. I'm 39 5'7 180 and pretty new to all of this. About 4 months ago a coworker and good friend started me on a "trt" dose of test e. He's been training and enhanced for years and looks incredible! I've always known or at least thought to myself he must be doing something?! So I started talking about wanting to get to the gym and really get the body I want! And also wanting to feel good! Cause yes i was experiencing signs of low test, always sluggish and tired, low sex drive and well you know rest. He was all about helping me out and excited to see what happened as he told me he could tell I had the right frame and genetics. Wide shoulders naturally big forearms, short stocky and still looking like I'm 21 lol ... I started stopping at his place every Friday on the way home so he could do my injection .. 250 a week.
It has changed my life!!! 4 months later and I feel amazing!! Full of energy and excitement! I'm walking up with full hard ons and even having morning sex again!! MORNING SEX!! Shit even day sex when I get home from work sometimes! My wife loves it for sure! Lol its been years! Since we have been screwing like rabbits lol
I changed my diet I stopped eating all shit food ( I'm still trying to really learn nutrition) I've never worried about it before but I'm eating better I'm training in the gym 4 - 5 days a week and I'm training better and harder every day! After just a couple months of really working out right Im seeing awesome results in the mirror!!! I'm hooked!! I'm planning to start a actual "cycle" the 1st of august. I'm waiting till then to give me time to continue working on getting everything else dialed in, diet, gym, body fat% etc ... So here's my plan for a first cycle

12 weeks
Test E - 300 weekly
DECA - 300 weekly
Primo - 300 weekly

Is this a smart plan? Can I expect a decent gain in mass and definition? Are AIs really needed?
Thanks all any input and advice is greatly appreciated!

The TestE and Primo cycle would be easy as can be. I think you’ll be ok adding the Deca too though. Those are responsible doses. Be sure to read up on those compounds - use the search function here. Some guys swear every bro needs caber. You likely don’t. P5P or B6 daily is useful.

Do you take an AI on your 250/wk TRT? You could have some bloodwork on that to see where your E2 is currently after 4 months. Everyone is different. Get the “sensitive test” which is E2 by LC/MS/MS. Going from 250/week of Test to 300/week isn’t a significant jump.

 

[MindlessWork]

If this is your very first run perhaps go with just plain Test E to see how your body responds to it. On a future run then add in another compound.

There's a lot of good info here about the various compounds and how to run them...search up!

 

[Supradev]

The TestE and Primo cycle would be easy as can be. I think you’ll be ok adding the Deca too though. Those are responsible doses. Be sure to read up on those compounds - use the search function here. Some guys swear every bro needs caber. You likely don’t. P5P or B6 daily is useful.

Do you take an AI on your 250/wk TRT? You could have some bloodwork on that to see where your E2 is currently after 4 months. Everyone is different. Get the “sensitive test” which is E2 by LC/MS/MS. Going from 250/week of Test to 300/week isn’t a significant jum

So I did get my blood work done Friday after work but won't get the results till monday. And no I haven't taken an AI yet. I went through my regular doc for the blood test so I'm interested to see her reaction to my levels lol .. I didn't tell her what I was doing yet only cause I just wanted to get the labs done without having her tell me I was harming myself ya know .. I mean she's gonna see for her self and so if she asks me I will be honest

 

[Cashton]

So I did get my blood work done Friday after work but won't get the results till monday. And no I haven't taken an AI yet. I went through my regular doc for the blood test so I'm interested to see her reaction to my levels lol .. I didn't tell her what I was doing yet only cause I just wanted to get the labs done without having her tell me I was harming myself ya know .. I mean she's gonna see for her self and so if she asks me I will be honest

I say go for it man, you laid out a nice cycle, just monitor and watch for side effects, but don’t let that consume you or you’ll start thinking you have sides when you don’t, lol. Seriously I wouldn’t think that you will have any problems at those doses especially with the primo potentially keeping any estrogen problems in check.

 

[Supradev]

OK so my blood work came back. My total test is 1760, free is 86.2 and my e2 is 160, estradiol is at 171 ... I've been researching and reading all I can on this and I know my estrogen is pretty high.. Its 10% of my test which doesn't sound all that bad though? I'm not experiencing any bad symptoms, I feel great! Like I'm 20 years younger! My nipples don't hurt although once and awhile they will get a lil sensitive but nothing out of control. However I do feel a tiny tiny hardness behind my left nipple!? Its not big at all and wouldn't be noticable! Any recomendations as to go forward or handle it? Again its just the left side, the right side is completely fine. And again the left side is like a tiny bit hard and doesn't hurt or anything.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

For the sake of having a hard dick and a strong sex drive id drop the deca for now. Nadrolone starts out making me horny as hell and everything works fine but as time rolls on the sex drive is still there but I have a hellacious time reaching prgasm then a few weeks later I have a hellacious time staying hard to get to an orgasm then a a little while later the sex drive is gone along with the hard on and doesn't really return until a month or so after the cycle is over.

 

[OmL]

1760/86.2 sounds like near blast enough for some people.

If it ain’t broke, then don’t fix it.