First Test E Only Cycle

[jbold001]

I'm 25 years old, 6 feet and 190 pounds, about %15 BF. I've been training since I was 15/16? and personal training since I was 18 years old. I'd like to think I have decent training and dietary background/habits. Running my first cycle in about 2 months. I'm going to lean out a bit aggressively for the next 2 months. I am doing this mainly because I am awaiting some other obligations regarding medical school before I being my cycle. I don't want to have other obligations that may hinder training time, having added stresses with testing, etc.

I would like to run my cycle including PCT past you guys. Any feedback/ recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
I had a bad case of gyno as a teen. I actually had surgery for it when I was 18. I still have some lumps, I guess the surgeon didn't do the best job. Gyno is definitely something I want to be cautious with.
I was planning on 12 weeks, but the Test E being sold was 250mg/ml at 10ml vials, so I decided on purchasing 2 vials and make the fit for a 10 week cycle instead.

Week 1-10: Test E at 250mg 2x a week (500mg total per week), Monday morning and Thursday afternoon
Week 1-12: Arimidex .25mg EOD (If I notice signs of high estrogen I will increase this to .5mg)
Week 1-10: HCG 250mg twice a week (subQ), Sunday and Wednesday
Week 13-17: Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

*PCT is something I would really like some feedback on please. I know there are MANY different approaches/doses. Some people recommend less nolva than I have listed, some more clomid, some less clomid, some add arimidex, etc. Currently, this is what I feel is best from what I have read. Am I overshooting the clomid and nolva a bit too much? I just want to make sure I minimize side effects and get my HPTA back ASAP. I'm hoping to get feedback from you more experienced members.

*I am planning on taking Arimidex up to week 12. I would like some feedback on this too please.

*I will be using 25gauge 1" needles to shoot up and 23gauge to draw out. Most likely shoot in glutes. For HCG a 30gauge 1/2" for subQ. That should do just fine right?

*liquid vs tabs: arimidex, clomid, and nolva.... Any benefits, pros, cons? Recommendations on tabs vs liquid?

 

[FuriousWO]

That looks great! Only thing you might consider is adding test prop at 150 EOD for weeks 11-13 while your waiting for the test e to clear out. Keep your gains up and start PCT 3 days after last test p pin.

Slin pins are fine for HCG, you may find it a little difficult to draw the test with a 23 gauge, I use an 18 to draw, but if you have them already no need to change.

I like pills over capsules it's easier to split. liquids in my experience are generally research chems and less desirable.

No opinion on when to stop adex, I don't run with that 3 weeks of dead time. Someone else can answer that part.

Good luck

 

[Boilermech]

Get 3 vials of test if your running 10weeks. You will lose a little with each pin and you won't get a full shot your last week. Also a good idea to have extra to do a labmax on it before you start.
Adex right up to pct. You don't want your e2 to go way up in between your last shot and pct.
I also like running prop at the end and dbol at the front but for your first cycle I would just stick with the test E. Good luck brother.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Seems like you've done some research and I think you have a solid plan. Something to consider is if you know you have pre-existing gyno, I would run an AI from day one of your cycle AND throughout PCT. Many guys don't think this is neccassary, but it something you should research and at least consider. My recommendation would be Adex while ON because it's fast acting and easier to adjust your dose based on sides & "feel". Then run a low dose aromasin throughout PCT to keep E2 suppressed while your natural test levels are restoring. I choose Aromasin in PCT over continuing adex because of the suggestion that there is a possible interaction between adex and Nolva rendering each drug less effective when combined. Many guys don't have symptoms of gyno during cycle, but have more of a late onset when they come off and they are still trying to restore balance. It's worth looking into at least...

As far as your dual serm PCT I think you have a pretty widely accepted "standard" dosage protocol. In my experience Clomid makes me a whiny little bitch and when I do run it I never exceed 50mg. Of course dosages will greatly depend on whether you have pharma meds or something unknown (RC or UGL label)

Good luck. Above all else be a beast in the weightroom AND AT THE TABLE! Make sure to get plenty of sleep!

 

[Burrr]

You sound like you've done your homework and have a good plan laid out.
On cycle, I would go ahead and get that third vial of test e. Sometimes they are a little light, you leave a little behind in the syringe, or even might break one.
I really like 12 weeks for a cycle, maybe you could add two weeks of test prop at the end.

AI's: I dose my adex just as you planned to, .25 EOD. I also switched from adex to aromasin at the end of the cycle and keep taking an AI through PCT.

As a med school student you should be able to appreciate the value of blood work. You can arrange your own bloodwork online through labsmd.com. The hormone panel for females gives us all the data we need. You should do the pre cycle, during cycle and again a couple months after PCT. You can see first hand what your E2 levels are at, plus have a baseline for test serum while you were natty.

PCT is not as bad as some folks make it out to be. I start 3 weeks after last pin of test E, or 5 days after last pin of test prop if you add that in at the end. MAke sure you have real pharma grade clomid and nolva! Don't skimp and settle for research chems here.
Most people run clomid at 100/100/50/50 and Nolva at 40/40/20/20 ( the 4 weeks of PCT daily dose) If you notice any weird sides you can drop the dosages down a little.

Pinning: You'll need to hit something other than glutes all the time. I do quads w/o too much PIP.

 

[Boilermech]

Nice post @Burrr although there was one thing that I'm going to have to disagree with. Running test E only with injecting 1cc on Monday (right glute) and 1cc on Thursday (left glute) and so on and so on should be easy. I've injected 3cc in each glute in the past hitting them both just once a week and it handles it no problem. That was a total of 6cc a week.
Granted I weighed around 235/240 so I had some meat back there, but I think he would be fine with only 1cc in each glute a week.
This is just based on running test E only. If he throws in prop EOD he might want to go to the delts or quads. Just my opinion.

 

[jbold001]

Thanks for the feedback guys. It is very much appreciated. I will add aromasin to my PCT. How is 12.5mg aromasin EOD in addition to my Nolva and Clomid?
I am also planning on getting the appropriate blood work done. I will look into labsmd.com, thanks for the tip!

I actually have a question/concern about sources now that you guys have mentioned it. I was actually planning on getting my Nolva, clomid, Adex, and aromasin through a research company. I actually have several i'm looking into and considering based on most recent reviews I could gather ( rui, cem-meso, ag-guys, iron dragon, madisonjames)... was planning on reliableRx for my HCG....
I am definitely don't want to skimp out on these items, no doubt. Are any of the places I listed G2G for these items? I would really appreciate your recommendations, thanks!

 

[Barrpiece]

If you are going to go the research company rout I've had good experiences with nolva and Adex from pure-sol.....they've never disappointed me u might wanna check them out as well ...good luck brotha

 

[Burrr]

Real shit from pctshop.com

 

[Burrr]

I'm doing a PCT right now, and running aro at 3mg per day. On cycle I would be at 6mg a day, so half strength. Forgot to mention that vit D is great for PCT too, 5000 iu a day.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Damn @Burrr
Your good side is showing through that grumpy avi my friend, you're quite helpful when the OP has done his research and comes in willing to accept advice.

 

[fokai500]

Look similar to what I wanna try on my first cycle. Think I'm going start off with sust for week 1 thru 5 then finish the last 7 with test e. Don't know about hcg yet still planning. Just placed my first order today. So hope all goes well.

 

[Burrr]

Damn @Burrr
Your good side is showing through that grumpy avi my friend, you're quite helpful when the OP has done his research and comes in willing to accept advice.

It must be the clomid I'm taking, lol

 

[jbold001]

hmm thanks for the advice, i will add vitamin D. It's a nice simple cheap addition. Thank you all for your input, I really do appreciate it.

I would like a some more feedback on PCT sources though, please. Would you advice on or against any of the sources I listed? Or other really well known pharm grade sources?
I did see a few recommendations so thanks, I will look into those sources as well. Just looking to maximize my options and SAFETY!