first timer

[KBTGBLK]

from USA 5'8" 150... just got first cycle in 3x10ml TestE... 2x10ml Deca Dura... 50 caps of dbol 20... and PCT clomid and nolva... can anyone give me any suggestions on dosing looking to start tonight

 

[Donutman]

How many weeks are you going to cycle for?

 

[KBTGBLK]

How many weeks are you going to cycle for?

my g2g says ten weeks is fine for my first time

 

[Donutman]

Most people would advise you only take test for your first time. Then add other compounds when you're more experienced.

Do you have any AIs?

 

[Big Boss]

from USA 5'8" 150... just got first cycle in 3x10ml TestE... 2x10ml Deca Dura... 50 caps of dbol 20... and PCT clomid and nolva... can anyone give me any suggestions on dosing looking to start tonight

your first cycle should be only test

 

[KBTGBLK]

your first cycle should be only test

so dont stack the test with either the Dbol20 or the DecaD???

 

[KBTGBLK]

Most people would advise you only take test for your first time. Then add other compounds when you're more experienced.

Do you have any AIs?

Als??? what is that??? and are you saying i shouldnt stack???

 

[Donutman]

Als??? what is that??? and are you saying i shouldnt stack???

You gotta do a little more research bro.

 

[Moab]

Sounds like someone is planning this cycle for you?
If so, and that person has not mentioned an AI, drop that person and do some more research.

 

[Big Boss]

Als??? what is that??? and are you saying i shouldnt stack???

This is because you need to find out how your body reacts to testosterone. Once you have a couple of testosterone only cycles under your belt, you can begin to introduce other compounds. That way you'll be able to identify exactly which compound is causing the side effects. Otherwise you'll be lost.
Think about eating 2 or 3 exotic foods in one sitting. If you get food poisoning, how will you know which one caused it? You'll never know. So don't rush into things, one step at a time is wise.
Choosing your ester is important. If it's your first time, you're likely not a fan of frequent injections. Long esters, such as enanthate and Cypionate allow you to inject twice weekly. Every 3.5 days. But short esters, require more frequent injections, such as daily or every other day. So for this example, we will use a long ester.

 

[Johne71]

Als??? what is that??? and are you saying i shouldnt stack???

I'd suggest reading here...the area I circled. The Testosterone you take will get converted to estrogen and give you the side effects you don't want (look up gynocomastia...not pleasant). You'll want to have something on hand for when symptoms start to arise. Having quality AIs (Aromatase Inhibitors) on hand is going to be just as important as having quality Testosterone.

 

[KBTGBLK]

I'd suggest reading here...the area I circled. The Testosterone you take will get converted to estrogen and give you the side effects you don't want (look up gynocomastia...not pleasant). You'll want to have something on hand for when symptoms start to arise. Having quality AIs (Aromatase Inhibitors) on hand is going to be just as important as having quality Testosterone.

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i got some clomid and some nolvaldex

 

[KBTGBLK]

Sounds like someone is planning this cycle for you?
If so, and that person has not mentioned an AI, drop that person and do some more research.

i got the als... just didnt know the slang term for it... i got some clomid and nolvaldex

 

[KBTGBLK]

This is because you need to find out how your body reacts to testosterone. Once you have a couple of testosterone only cycles under your belt, you can begin to introduce other compounds. That way you'll be able to identify exactly which compound is causing the side effects. Otherwise you'll be lost.
Think about eating 2 or 3 exotic foods in one sitting. If you get food poisoning, how will you know which one caused it? You'll never know. So don't rush into things, one step at a time is wise.
Choosing your ester is important. If it's your first time, you're likely not a fan of frequent injections. Long esters, such as enanthate and Cypionate allow you to inject twice weekly. Every 3.5 days. But short esters, require more frequent injections, such as daily or every other day. So for this example, we will use a long ester.

so i will start tonight and go fridays and tuesdays??? and how much thats all i am lacking is proper dosing... im 5'8" 150 with a metabolism out this world...

 

[Moab]

i got the als... just didnt know the slang term for it... i got some clomid and nolvaldex

If you have enough nolvadex for pct plus use as an AI during cycle, you can use that, but most folks will say arimidex is a better choice.

 

[KBTGBLK]

If you have enough nolvadex for pct plus use as an AI during cycle, you can use that, but most folks will say arimidex is a better choice.

i got 100 capsules of nolvaldex... is that enough and how often should i take it during cycle???

 

[Johne71]

Both the Clomid and Nolvadex are SERMS . You'll want to inhibit the conversion. Both Clomid and Nolvadex will only block it at the receptor sites, still allowing the Estrogen to build up. High Estrogen is as bad as low Estrogen. You have to find the fine balance though. Crashing your Estrogen to 0 is not the way to go either. Lots of advice on how to Kee it at a good level. Only true way is to get blood work updated and see where you are at.

 

[Johne71]

I keep the Nolvadex on hand and only use it when I start feeling my nipples getting itchy. It is pretty good at blocking the receptor sites in breast tissue. I also limit my Arimidex and only use it when needed. For my testosterone replacement therapy, the Arimidex is actually added to my 10ml vial...my only worry there is getting too much. I use UGL for now. Later I'll switch back to the prescription to get on track before blood work.

 

[KBTGBLK]

I keep the Nolvadex on hand and only use it when I start feeling my nipples getting itchy. It is pretty good at blocking the receptor sites in breast tissue. I also limit my Arimidex and only use it when needed. For my testosterone replacement therapy, the Arimidex is actually added to my 10ml vial...my only worry there is getting too much. I use UGL for now. Later I'll switch back to the prescription to get on track before blood work.

i appreciate the advice and will keep it in mind... i know this is a way of life thati am looking to incorporate with my everday life choices

 

[Johne71]

No problem @KBTGBLK... If you go about this all correctly, you may not have to incorporate this as a way of life. Steroid usage can definitely screw you up for life if not done correctly...of course everyone is different. Keep reading...those "stickies" have a ton of valuable details where I've learned a lot. Just have to be patient with the BS that happens in a lot of threads. There can be some diamonds in those hills though.
Best of luck with the cycle.