First timer

[Liberty99]

So finally plunged right in to my first cycle test only. First injection completed tonight, pinned glute with no issues, think I may have pinned a little too low on the glute, but pretty good overall. Was a bit nervous but seemed to go alright with no pain and a little spot of blood only

Here is my plan:
Wk 1-12 Test E 400mg/wk (200mg x 2)
wk 3-12 HCG 500iu/wk (250 iu x 2)
Will do bloods after wk 4 to get a sense on the AI need/level
PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10


Stats 38 y.o., about 5'7'', 155lb, bodyfat is 12%, been working out for about 3 years (previously did lots of lifting in high school but got back into it 3 years ago)

Baseline bloods
Total Test: 480 ng/dL
Estradiol: 20 pg/mL
FSH: 3.4
LH: 1.5

Will keep this updated...let me know if you have any advice...thanks!!!

 

[Vfljuicer]

I think you have a really good protocol for your first cycle. Not many people get bloods mid cycle to tell how the need to dose an ai. I would just make sure you have an ai on hand just Incase you get a flare up and need something quick to make sure you don’t get gyno. My first cycle was the same but no hcg everything went good then my second I done 500mg test with 40mg dbol. I ran arimidex the entire cycle and still had estrogen problems. I think you will be ok with this dose until you get bloods at week four. Overall good planned out cycle for your first time.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

So finally plunged right in to my first cycle test only. First injection completed tonight, pinned glute with no issues, think I may have pinned a little too low on the glute, but pretty good overall. Was a bit nervous but seemed to go alright with no pain and a little spot of blood only

Here is my plan:
Wk 1-12 Test E 400mg/wk (200mg x 2)
wk 3-12 HCG 500iu/wk (250 iu x 2)
Will do bloods after wk 4 to get a sense on the AI need/level
PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10


Stats 38 y.o., about 5'7'', 155lb, bodyfat is 12%, been working out for about 3 years (previously did lots of lifting in high school but got back into it 3 years ago)

Baseline bloods
Total Test: 480 ng/dL
Estradiol: 20 pg/mL
FSH: 3.4
LH: 1.5

Will keep this updated...let me know if you have any advice...thanks!!!

Hey bro,, you got Test E at a good dosage level there. You could also add in about 200mg to 300mg of Masteron E with that cycle because masteron will make the test work better and give more of an anabolic effect,, plus it will lower your chances to use an AI and your gains will be more on the quality side due to the use of masteron.

 

[Liberty99]

2nd pin completed few days ago, hit the left delt, overall went well, bit sore the next day, but nothing major. Good start so far.

 

[Liberty99]

One thing that I have noticed is towards the end of this week, my resting heart rate has been ticking upward very slowly. I only know because I wear a fitbit and its automatically collected everyday.

Past 2 days been in low 60s, while past two years avg has been around 55 or so very consistently. Is this anything to be concerned about or try to address?

Appreciate any insights you can offer. Thanks.

 

[Liberty99]

Also gained about 5 lbs...wondering if this is water bloat or high E issue already, only week 2 so far, 3 pins

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Also gained about 5 lbs...wondering if this is water bloat or high E issue already, only week 2 so far, 3 pins

Hey Liberty99,, a normal resting heart rate is between 60 to 100,, so in your case its nothing to be concerned about.
Also,, it is normal for a significant weight increase in the first week or two for your first cycle. It is mostly water weight gain

 

[Kineticmacks]

What lab you running?

 

[BushLeague]

Keep the updates coming. Ill be following.

 

[Liberty99]

Also gained about 5 lbs...wondering if this is water bloat or high E issue already, only week 2 so far, 3 pins

So after this post, took 0.25 mg adex, went to bed, and bloat definitely reduced a lot the next morning. Felt less bloat in gut and shirt didnt feel as tight as previous day. Dont know how often I will need AI, but this dose definitely seemed to help for the bloat.

Just did another pin tonight, left delt, felt good, no issues.

Overall end of 2nd week and definitely feeling more energy and strength seems to be increasing along with libido. Very pleased so far, really looking forward to see the bloods at week 4.

 

[Liberty99]

Start of week 3, did another pin in right glute, went well. Much less nervous now about the injections and technique.
Also started HCG @ 250iu and will do 500iu total per week for rest of cycle. Formulating the HCG in BAC water seemed to go ok and the subq slin pin was smooth. Hope the HCG can be good in BAC water for 6 weeks or so. Also had to take another adex 0.25 mg due to one nipple feeling a little off and tingly a day or so ago. It resolved itself after the adex. Going to start adex 0.25 mg E3D until bloods come @ week 5.

Starting to definitely see more energy at gym, better pumps, and overall feel stronger and seeing better recovery times already.

Only issue so far has been ~15 resting bp/min increase in heart rate since I started cycle. Increased from ~53 to ~68. I have it tracked on my fitbit every day and resting heart rate seems to be steady at the ~68 level. Overall my heart rate is higher in general whether resting or engaged in moderate/strenous activity. Have always been in good CV shape based on physicals and bloods. Not sure if this is anything to be concerned about as I dont really notice outside of the tracking on the fitbit.

Any thoughts?

 

[craig myers]

Start of week 3, did another pin in right glute, went well. Much less nervous now about the injections and technique.
Also started HCG @ 250iu and will do 500iu total per week for rest of cycle. Formulating the HCG in BAC water seemed to go ok and the subq slin pin was smooth. Hope the HCG can be good in BAC water for 6 weeks or so. Also had to take another adex 0.25 mg due to one nipple feeling a little off and tingly a day or so ago. It resolved itself after the adex. Going to start adex 0.25 mg E3D until bloods come @ week 5.

Starting to definitely see more energy at gym, better pumps, and overall feel stronger and seeing better recovery times already.

Only issue so far has been ~15 resting bp/min increase in heart rate since I started cycle. Increased from ~53 to ~68. I have it tracked on my fitbit every day and resting heart rate seems to be steady at the ~68 level. Overall my heart rate is higher in general whether resting or engaged in moderate/strenous activity. Have always been in good CV shape based on physicals and bloods. Not sure if this is anything to be concerned about as I dont really notice outside of the tracking on the fitbit.

Any thoughts?

I like this; Seems well thought out. I remember my first pin I almost died of anxiety Haha.

What's your diet like?
What's your end goal?

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Start of week 3, did another pin in right glute, went well. Much less nervous now about the injections and technique.
Also started HCG @ 250iu and will do 500iu total per week for rest of cycle. Formulating the HCG in BAC water seemed to go ok and the subq slin pin was smooth. Hope the HCG can be good in BAC water for 6 weeks or so. Also had to take another adex 0.25 mg due to one nipple feeling a little off and tingly a day or so ago. It resolved itself after the adex. Going to start adex 0.25 mg E3D until bloods come @ week 5.

Starting to definitely see more energy at gym, better pumps, and overall feel stronger and seeing better recovery times already.

Only issue so far has been ~15 resting bp/min increase in heart rate since I started cycle. Increased from ~53 to ~68. I have it tracked on my fitbit every day and resting heart rate seems to be steady at the ~68 level. Overall my heart rate is higher in general whether resting or engaged in moderate/strenous activity. Have always been in good CV shape based on physicals and bloods. Not sure if this is anything to be concerned about as I dont really notice outside of the tracking on the fitbit.

Any thoughts?

Your resting heart rate seems to be on track. Just keep a close eye on it. You might want to take some supplements that benefit your heart. Omega 3, Omega 3-6-9, chromium picolinate, CO-Q10 and red yeast rice are really great for heart health.

 

[Liberty99]

Hi all, haven’t checked in for awhile but all is going well with this first cycle. Took bloods at wk 5 and have total test 2745 ng/dL, E2 at 50 pg/mL, FSH and LH below quantitative limit. Very happy with the test results from only ~420mg/week. Upped my Adex frequency to 0.25 mg EOD to hopefully get the E2 back down a bit. Although definitely don’t feel much effect from the high E2, a little extra bloat maybe, but that’s about it.

Strength gains in gym have been incredible, recovery from workouts also has been so much better than prior to the cycle, and the libido is off the charts. Starting week 9 now, really no major issues at all and very happy with the results. Pinning has been smooth sigh almost no PIP anywhere. Heart rate is still elevated compared to pre cycle but I don’t notice it much and it’s basically leveled out just below 70bpm.

Going to continue to week 12 and then will PCT. Been on about 500iu/wk of HCG from week 3.
Plan is to stop HCG at last injection of cycle, washout for 2 weeks, then Nolva 20/20/10/10. Any thoughts?

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Having a little extra bloat should not be an issue. I would keep your adex dosage the same as you had kept it during the whole cycle thus far. You have to keep in mind that muscle growth is dependent on a decent amount of estrogen. Also,, you could continue to week 12 and then switch over to another compound,, such as a combo of NPP and anavar (or winstrol) for about 8 weeks or so (but only doing an oral for the first 5 weeks). You could continue to make this a continuation of the bulking cycle you were doing with test only,, or make as a cutting cycle. Judt food for thought!