Fuckin Gyno

Neodavid said:
Thanks... I'll order some tonight. Hey, a guy at the gym here just told me he uses Nolva because it also prevents test from breaking down into DHT... (for hair loss prevention).

BUT, Nolva more a receptor site drug... have you heard anything about something that prevents DHT from forming?

Your guy at the gym is just plain wrong....it has absolutely no impact on conversion to DHT.
 
chris587 said:
Can't Vitex help progesterone induced gyno?
That just deals with the prolactin too. One of the few things that will work to handle progesteron or progestins at the level of the progesterone receptor is mifepristone, but that's only assuming that progestins are inducing gyno via the progesterone receptor, which I don't think is the case. Progesterone is a prolactin receptor agonist too, so progestins may very well be stimulating the prolactin receptor. If so, mifepristone won't be effective.
The main thing is....no one has yet thrown out a theory of how progestins may induce gyno that has been proven, so it's a lot of speculation on everyone's part.
 
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damn, ive been taking .5 and up to 1g a day of armidex plus 300-400mg of b6. I think my tit stopped growing but i dont think its getting smaller. Deca has been good except for this, my back pain has gone away completly and now i can do squats again. I havent been able to stop the deca. Im going to see if I can finish up my test deca cycle.
 
What about running winstrol to reduce chance of progesterone gyno? I read somewhere that it binds to progesterone receptors or something?
 
In the past i have done as much as 750 mgs test and 750 mgs deca every week without any estrogen control drugs and never got any symptoms of gyno.This time around i did 250 mgs of test and 100 mgs of tren eod not to mention 1 mg of goldlifter brand arimidex eod.Within 2 weeks i started getting raisin sized lumps over my nipples.I decided to shut down all drug use and i ordered some bromo.Till my supply of bromo gets here ill take 600 mgs of b-6 everyday and let you guys know how it goes.
 
Go Away??

I don't know what everyone means when they say that their gyno goes away when they stop the drugs in question. I got some gyno from my last two cycles and I was using anti-e's. I just got a little here and alittle there, , because I was following the "have it on hand " advice. Now I need fucking surgery. I've been off for 5 months now and my lumps are here to stay. Anyone ever had the surgery? I feel like I should just keep cycling a few more times before I do it, I wouldn't want to have to get the surgery twice.
 
Anyone else have that kind of erratic response?

If the only thing different was the arimidex, I wonder if there's a chance it was something else?

Gyno isn't a build up kind of thing, is it, where after a number of cycles you finally 'cross the line'?

I just started taking arimidex yesterday, for the first time. I'm on 750 sust.

Desibaba said:
In the past i have done as much as 750 mgs test and 750 mgs deca every week without any estrogen control drugs and never got any symptoms of gyno.This time around i did 250 mgs of test and 100 mgs of tren eod not to mention 1 mg of goldlifter brand arimidex eod.Within 2 weeks i started getting raisin sized lumps over my nipples.I decided to shut down all drug use and i ordered some bromo.Till my supply of bromo gets here ill take 600 mgs of b-6 everyday and let you guys know how it goes.
 
HHH thanks for the concern Brother. I have cut the Deca down and hopefully the pain may get a little better. I have no plans to stop using until I cannot stand it any longer. Then I guess it's surgery. The lump is really really small but hurts like a motherfucker. It seems to hurt worse when I think about it.
 
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