FWIW....Bioniche

[bickel29]

Damn, we've all been waiting a long time for you to admit it Bickel!

Hey, someone had to say it, and no one would take me up on my offer to trade 3 bottles of PEP tren and 3 bottles of MFL test, in exchange for referring to me as an Awesome Member. All bottles above are Vintage 2014 oil.

 

[Damian]

Bioniche is true? Sorry I do not know English well ... I do not know some words to translate.

 

[G.I. Bro]

I've had the worst luck. I first bought PEP then he went to shit a couple weeks later. Then same deal with MFL, then Astro. If you ever want to take a lab down, tell me to buy from them. They'll be shit soon after. All I want is a good cycle. FML

It's seems all UGL eventually get a tarnished reputation, especially here. The raws from China are shit. It's a matter of time before even good, trusted sources with good intentions cooks up shitty raws.

At best they melt point test. An ultra diligent source would melt point every batch before production. Even this is only marginal assurance. Most UGL don't even do that, just a basic visual inspection for familiar characteristics (even smell) when cooking. Nobody fucking labmax or MS checks their large batch raws. It's a crapshoot.

 

[spj]

Well first let me say sorry to hear your results. But, look on the bright side, u could've gotten contaminated gear, estrogen filled, among other things. Less than 40% is horribly underdosed but now u know next time instead of guessing, u can double up and get your #s to the 5000 range you're looking for. I know this ain't what u probably want to hear but I was just reading about a member who had gotten so much estrogen he needed surgery to recover.

 

[devildog93]

Really man? 40% is workable eh? Any idea what the other 60% is? This genre is crazy as fuck. I'll be damned if i would ever think of shooting 60% mystery product. Just double it up is the mantra i guess and that fixes everything. Even if it is substances that have been carried through imperfect chemical reactions in the process like andro or dhea, do i really want to be shooting 250mg of test enanthate and 350mg of andro/dhea/whatever else? I would most definitely pass on that i think.

 

[spj]

I never said it was ideal. And, no matter what ugl you're using there are risks. Don't get me wrong, yeah it sucks, but instead of the guy beating himself over the head about it, I simply said to look at the bright side.

 

[weighted chinup]

I don't care about dmnt's results since they certainly seem abnormal and don't agree with the majority of the data(which you used to care about).. Why didn't you post up when someone posted 10k the other day on 1g/week?? Well, because it didn't agree with the bullshit argument you've been having here for months, that's why!! Can see right through you, man.. Right freaking through you..

That's @I_know_nothing 's M.O .

He can't make an argument unless he is using absolute extremes to back him up.

He made this abundantly clear in the other thread where he shared his speculation and bro-science with us by suggesting that serum test is only linear and dose dependent until a certain point. Yeah....

I'm not even going to bother addressing @I_know_nothing 's non-sense any more, at the end of the day his arguments just boil down to speculation and his own concocted bro-science. I will just point out the countless logical fallacies he uses in his postings.

Maybe some day he can make an argument without appealing to extremes? Probably not.