Game changer? Personal spectrometer

[Nutpuncher]

https://www.consumerphysics.com/myscio/

Isn't too expensive if it can detect as marketed.

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

Any reviews?

 

[Nutpuncher]

No reviews that I am aware of yet. I need to research this more to ensure that it will detect AAS.

How badass would it be to be able to check your Raws and finished products for purity.

If this is accurate and does what it's marketed to do, then I am getting one!!!!

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

It says it can detect ingredients in health supplements and pills. Don't know about oil solutions.

But may be worth a try.

And I'm so getting one if that works!

 

[mercury]

Things like this have been used for a long time at places where you can bring scrap metal.

But when you deal with complex substances spectrophotometers cannot do the job. This is why GC/MS, HPLC is used by labs to do the job not spectrophotometers.

 

[Nutpuncher]

Things like this have been used for a long time at places where you can bring scrap metal.

But when you deal with complex substances spectrophotometers cannot do the job. This is why GC/MS, HPLC is used by labs to do the job not spectrophotometers.

That's what I am afraid of.

 

[mercury]

spectrophotometers are used in astronomy so we know the basic composition of stars, plantes etc. you can detect from distance by analyzing the light.

but when they wanted to find more about Mars or other plantes they had to send GC ( gas chromatograph) to analyze the samples.

 

[CdnGuy]

So my meat head question , is it even scientifically possible too make a device like this? (Portable hand held)

 

[mercury]

So my meat head question , is it even scientifically possible too make a device like this? (Portable hand held)

Captain Kirk might know

 

[CdnGuy]

I'll give him a ring then

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

These things are about as reliable as a labmax. They are helpful to a small degree, but there is much room for error. They basically work like this; if you have a known standard that you are using and you test something that it is supposed to be, it would tell you if it is a match. Example, if you received a batch of Watson test cyp from the Internet and had a Known standard of it it would be able to tell you it is a match assuming Watson never changes their formula.

Disclaimer: I am not a scientist, this is pure speculation, I really don't know what I am talking about and everything I have said could be totally wrong. Thanks, and have a wonderful day [emoji4]

 

[Nutpuncher]

These things are about as reliable as a labmax. They are helpful to a small degree, but there is much room for error. They basically work like this; if you have a known standard that you are using and you test something that it is supposed to be, it would tell you if it is a match. Example, if you received a batch of Watson test cyp from the Internet and had a Known standard of it it would be able to tell you it is a match assuming Watson never changes their formula.

Disclaimer: I am not a scientist, this is pure speculation, I really don't know what I am talking about and everything I have said could be totally wrong. Thanks, and have a wonderful day [emoji4]

I like your disclaimer.

You are correct.... You scan the substance and it sends data to their sever...if your substance matches one on "file" then it will let you know what it is. But what I don't understand yet, is how it is able to determine macros from food.

 

[Nutpuncher]

I just emailed them asking if it'll work with AAS. I'll let you guys know what they say.

 

[flenser]

It's a near infra-red spectrometer. You need much higher frequencies for hormone analysis.

 

[Nutpuncher]

This is reply I received. You can see my questions below their response.

Dear Sir/Madam,
While we have not tested these thoroughly, we believe that SCiO's NIR spectroscopy technology may be suitable for trace detection of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids only providing their concentrations are above SCiO's range of at least 0.1%.
SCiO typically detects materials in concentrations of 0.1% or higher. Concentration levels of 0.1% or less may also be feasible for some materials, however this is very rare.
The exact specifications depend on the SCiO application being used and material being analyzed.
In addition, it should be noted that the analysis of liquids, including oil-based sunstances, requires a liquid accessory to provide the best quality measurement of the special optical characteristics of liquids.
This liquid accessory will be available in the coming months.

The corresponding molecular sensing models and applications will have to be developed. This may be developed in the future either by us or by the SCiO developer community using our SCiO Development Toolkit (DevKit), which allows users to create models and apps.
More info about the DevKit can be found here and here. It can be purchased https://www.consumerphysics.com/myscio/order.

Please feel free to contact us with any further questions.
Best Regards,
The ConsumerPhysics Team
ConsumerPhysics

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Hello,

Will this detect Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids? In otherwords, will I be able to determine what type and purity of Anabolic Steriods such as Testosterone Cypionate. If so, will this work on oil based substances? Will it be able to determine the type of steriods, which carrier oil that steriod is suspended in and which ester?

FYI - Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids are legal where I live.

Thank you in advance for your time and help.

 

[Nutpuncher]

Anything anybody want me to ask them while I have their attention? Would I be a bitch if I ask to demo a unit?

 

[Big_poppa_Bren]

This would indeed be a game changer, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one.

 

[flenser]

Didn't realize this was still being considered. So here's the deal:

Scio uses an NIR (near infrared) sensor (https://www.consumerphysics.com/myscio/technology). That means it can detect wave lengths between about 3,330 cm-1 to about 12,800 cm-1. (http://halas.rice.edu/conversions)

Here is a typical hormone (testosterone enanthate) spectra:

All the interesting (identifying) information is between 800 cm-1 and 3,000 cm-1, all of which is in the MIR, not NIR band.

There are a few NIH studies around showing the use of NIR spectroscopy for detection of aas in urine. This is most likely the sort of thing SCiO support was referring to when they said it might be suitable for trace detection. So it could become a game changer at local sporting events; make aas testing in athletes much more affordable - and less reliable. I don't think it will ever be much use in selecting a good UGL product, though.