I find this statement interesting, Stretch. When you say "you don't know why you hate them", are you being honest, even with yourself? I'm not saying you're being dishonest but it is a bit unusual to feel that strongly and not no why. If you truly don't know, I suspect if you spend some time examining the origins of that feeling, you might be surprised at what you find.
I believe the reason is because Ge-TM showed up on the scene while I was still working with SF. And at the time, the two biggest stresses in my life were Dr. Jim and BB69.
SF was the only real source operating on Meso at that time. Then Ge-TM showed up and both the guys that were blasting me, jumped in with reviews and positives for Ge-Tm and that caused this sense of "competition".
Then I posted some information questioning Ge-Tm and the fact that they didn't reveal that the gear, which was being reviewed by Vets, was all given to the Vets for free. I felt this was dishonest, and I asked Ge-Tm on several occassions to come clean, all of my questions were ignored. The bitterness from all that just never left.
That's the reason.
The answer to that question is an unequivocal yes. You know what your true motives are but there will be some people that question the results AND your motives as a source- guaranteed. Whether questioning your motives is right or wrong is neither here nor there. That is the reality of the world we live in.
I don't care whether you go through with the test or not, it makes no difference to me. Only you can make that decision. We all have to pick our battles in life so if you think the potential rewards outweigh the potential repercussions, have at it.
It won't happen. I won't put my reputation on the line to have people tell me I cheated the test. I would do the 2nd version of the test. But I don't have volunteers to accept the Primo, and run it. So, if the community doesn't want to know the truth, I can't really force it on them, can I?
You're impatient, young grasshopper. It is irrelevant how credible they sound. The only thing that matters is the evidence and thus far, that has been notably absent. Wait for the evidence.
True. I am extremely impatient. And my bitterness towards Ge-Tm probably distorts my logic. I am fully aware of that, and I attempt to hold my emotions in check while analyzing the complaints of members. The subconscious is a powerful thing though.
That's true, he didn't say he used their primo but Shamrock has been here since 2011 and has 200+ posts. IOW, he has a history on Meso that can be judged and that is what I've been advocating with regard to people rating sources.
No, he didn't mention primo but he said he's spent 5 grand over the 5 years he's dealt with getm and is pleased with their service. That amounts to a solid endorsement, IMO. It's certainly worth infinitely more than the reviews a few brand new members with single digit post counts - no matter how credible they sound.
Perhaps. I didn't read his post that way. I read his post as saying that he has spent more in the last few months than most other guys spend in 5 years. Who knows, he messed up the sentence we are both referring to, making it very unclear what his true meaning was.
If I was correct in my assumption that he has only been buying from them for a few months, then him spending 5K means that he spent it on some HG GH. He wouldn't need but only a few kits to reach 3-4K. Then another 1k in gear, which amounts to 1 good cycle with a few compounds. So IMO he hasn't run enough of their gear to give a credible review.
Jim on the other hand, is a different story.
And shamrock is a 'Roid whore. He has posted ad's selling his extra gear, while also buying new gear when I was with SF. He obviously has too much money for his own good, and buying gear is almost seems like a hobby to him IMO. He bought from and reviewed like 3-4 (can't remember the exact number now, he can correct if I am off) sources in one month before.
Perhaps a little straw-man here, since this doesn't really say anything relevant about the credibility of his review. It's just weird IMO.