Gearline

[weighted chinup]

he also has two handles of shamrockbear and shamrockbear1
.. not sure why.

Hey what a coincidence, Gearline has two handles too! @Gearline and @Gearline1

How weird is that, just like @shamrockbear and @shamrockbear1.

 

[brutus79]

Serious inferiority complex here, Im sorry you were born abnormal ,and weak ....

I have always felt ad hominem is better than proof. Inferiority, abnormal- big words. No comma after abnormal but other than that it was more accurate grammatically and punctuation wise than your usual posts. Maybe you were feeling a little inferior? I know I would if I were you.

 

[BigDave]

He had cyp he was trying to source here that the mass spec came back at 27% pure. 27 fucking percent with no alluding to what the other 73% might be, and he figured you could quadruple your dose and inject what would then be 292% unknown product over the intial dose. He got butthurt when we didn't see it that way.

He then continued to talk shit about the board, the members and then started running his mouth about "pharm gear" he could get. He got laughed out of here. Small time two bit hustler then posts a list on evo and creates a new handle here as "gearline" with exact same prices as the "shamrockbear" handle... he also has two handles of shamrockbear and shamrockbear1
.. not sure why.

Now some of the batches are known counterfeit so he pulled them, yet refuses to admit they were and still won't admit he is the same douchebag selling 27% garbage gear.

You are just as likely to get burned by a randome person online as you are by a random person on a street corner. Thats why you hold out until you have a good connect or go to the doctor and get some trt. This "getting burned for drugs is just the breaks" attitude is what makes the scamming proliferate- expect more and don't settle for one of the garbage fucking sources here- these pigs are attracted to free sourcing fees.

I appreciate you and @weighted chinup taking the time to explain. Some very valid points. Have a better perspective on your position. Thanks

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Hey what a coincidence, Gearline has two handles too! @Gearline and @Gearline1

How weird is that, just like @shamrockbear and @shamrockbear1.

Nice catch, what are we on now? Exhibit 14? This has become a fucking joke over the past 48 hours..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Serious inferiority complex here, Im sorry you were born abnormal ,and weak ....

At least my word means something. No one trusts a liar, OGH and I gave you at least three chances to retract your lies. You refused. That says all anyone needs to know about you - a supposed Meso "vet."

But now I'm starting to wonder, if you are willing to lie about me, what else are you willing to lie about? Your involvement with gearline? That's seems almost a given now.

 

[bickel29]

OGH - I hope you take this post as friendly advice, and not as another member piling on you.

You and I have been cool here since last year, and since that time, you have been a member that other members here respected. But this new OGH, the guy making these odd posts, is unlikable and difficult to respect.

If I believed you were offering a genuine response to Brutus and CBS, I'd feel differently, but it seems as if you are simply saying what you think will anger them, not what you truly believe.

I am not taking sides, I am cool with both sides, but you really need to reconsider your approach here. You can oppose Brutus and CBS in a dignified manner without the over the top hyperbole. Again, it seems as if you are saying things just to be combative, at the expense of your credibility.

Lastly, you really do need to provide proof if you are gonna make an accusation like the one you made toward CBS. To make an accusation like that, and then when called on it, leave it at 'I am not gonna waste my time proving it' (paraphrasing) is garbage, my friend. Admittedly, and I am not proud of it, myself and many other members have supported and/or praised sources that went bad, but personally, I never do recall CBS being guilty of that. You need to prove it or apologize, it's the right thing to do.

Lastly, I would offer this. The lack of criticism you have faced is due to the respect you have gained before all of this started. If a new member who had only been here for 2 months was posting some of the stuff you've been posting, they would be getting hammered for it.

Respectfully,
Bickel

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

@johnnyBALLZ, @weighted chinup, @brutus79, @CensoredBoardsSuck (you all seem to have voiced similar opinions). Can you fill me in on what exactly it was that Shamrock did before he was driven off? He was described as shady and dangerous, and this could mean a lot of things. Asking this in all seriousness. I don't have a point I am trying to prove to anyone or an axe to grind with any of you, just wondering if it was a bunk gear issue, selective scamming, or something worse.
The reason he was driven off is important to me because unfortunately, for some of us finding a "lesser evil" is the only option when in a jam. I think it is great you guys have high expectations for quality and service from these guys and try to enforce it. I guess my expectations are just lower, & I assume I am eventually going to get ripped off or receive bunk gear. I try to minimize the likelihood by thoroughly testing, ordering products that are hard to fake a positive result with labmax, and making the info available to others.
Really I see it no differently than purchasing any other illegal substance. Back in my younger days sometimes you ended up shitting your brains out from a healthy dose of baby laxatives. You didn't get your money's worth, but if it was the only source available to you at the time there really wasn't much you could do if you were looking to party. So you would just write it off as an occasional bad experience. Next time it would probably be better, or maybe a new source would become available. Baby laxatives is one thing and you might put up with it. If you got pistol whipped, robbed, and left for dead you probably wouldn't want to roll the dice with that more than once. So I guess I am just asking if it was a baby laxatives offense or a full blown pistol whilping that ended Shamrocks time here.
Hopefully at some point I will find a source that is reliable 100% of the time. Maybe I am just jaded, but I feel like if this is hard to find in a face to face transaction, it is probably very rare in an anonymous online relationship.

Brutus and weightedchinup already gave you the answer you were looking for so I'm not going to address that. What I will address is the apparent lack of experience and understanding of the online AAS market that led you to question everyone's opinion on Shamrocbear's credibility in the first place, because it's going to get you scammed.

The online AAS racket is a cesspool. A cesspool with no bottom. Buying gear online isn't the same as buying in person for one main reason: Anonymity. Online, you are dealing with an anonymous seller, many of whom - especially start-ups like GL - use impostor accounts, shills and plants in order to convince unsuspecting noobs and suspicious senior members that they are legit, as well as creating enough doubt about the source's negativity that people will take the risk. But history has proven that the risk is too great. The statistics do not lie. The chances that a start-up source like GL will still be around this time next year is practically nil. Of the dozens and dozens of sources that have come to Meso, only Astro made it past the first year and even he looks to be finished.

Anonymity creates a serious problem when trying to identify these impostor accounts, shills and plants. In most cases, you're not going to find concrete proof that they are such. You must understand HOW the online AAS racket works first. Only then, with learning, time, and experience under your belt, will you'll learn to differentiate what looks suspicious from what's truly suspicious. There is a bit of an art to it but most people are able to develop their ability to recognize scammers fairly quickly, especially once they've seen a few scams play out.

So what is a noob to do in the meantime? It's no guarantee but there is often safety in numbers. Look for a consensus among the senior members. If you notice most of the senior members are suspicious, but only 2 or 3 are dissenting, that's a pretty good indication that YOU should be suspicious too. It's also a good indication that you should question the motives of the 2 or 3 that are dissenting. If the majority of the senior members are posting warnings about a source, there's usually a good reason for it.

I hadn't kept up with this thread until recently, but as soon as I started reading, alarm bells went off. Others were suspicious too, and because of some great detective work by a few diligent members, we were able to acquire enough evidence to be reasonably certain of what we are dealing with. Some of the evidence is conclusive, like the known counterfeit batch number Galenikas, but other evidence isn't strong enough to prove anything with 100% certainty by itself. However, when that evidence keeps piling up, and there's no evidence coming forward that refutes it, it's enough to draw a reasonable conclusion about the source. And online, that's usually as good as it gets.

The best you can do is be cautious, keep your eyes open, and learn. Don't settle for a nobody-source like Gearline because it's the "lesser evil" and "the only option when in a jam." That's what these fly-by-nighters are hoping for. And it's what gets people scammed. There are no shortcuts. Put your time in, get to know people, and you'll soon learn to recognize decent sources. Only then will you be able to minimize your chances of becoming the victim of a scam.

Regards

CBS

 

[WesternWay]

Does that mean that every new source will be run off no matter what? When you think about it, it's a scary proposition to put anything in your body that you bought over the internet. Some of these roids are made in countrys where I would not even drink the water.

 

[Gearline]

So this idiot posts up and this is his first cycle ever wtf... I've take bigger shits then the gear he's posting really you fucken even know what real gear is moron shut your.mouth idiot ...

Hello to the good bros at Evo! I’ve been reading the forums for a while but this is my first post…here it goes…

I’m planning my first AAS cycle. I plan to run a short cycle using a smaller than normally advised dose, to assess how my body reacts. I’m interested to see what effects a small dose of test will have on my strength, recovery, libido, and over all sense of well-being.

Stats:

Age-34
Height-6’
Weight-225
BF%-12
Years Training-10

Cycle History (SARMs Only):

MK, S4
LGD, S4
MK, S4, GW

Cycle (first draft):

1-6 test p, 50mg EOD
1-6 Aromasin 10mg E3D

PCT
1-4 Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5
1-4 Aromasin 5mg E3D


Some thoughts and questions:

I did a blood test almost a year ago to get my baseline. My total test was in the 450s, which is in range, just on the lower end. My free test was in the upper 2/3. I thought my test included estrogen and prolactin but it did not. I’ll get another test that will include these before I start my cycle, via Private Med Labs. I’ll have a blood test done during cycle and after PCT to see how I have recovered. A couple of questions:

How far into cycle should I get blood drawn using test p and should it be on a day I pin or not? Day I take Aromasin?

How long after PCT should I wait to get bloods?

I’m not sure if the Aromasin dosage and/or frequency I have listed will be optimal for the cycle I laid out. Obviously I would love to find a good balance but I guess I’m more concerned about completely obliterating my estrogen right out of the gate. I was even considering using 5 mg EOD on cycle, or even waiting until elevated estrogen signs appear before using it at all, although the latter is rarely recommended here. Also, I’m not sure about dose and frequency during PCT.

I am considering running HCG during the cycle…possibly during the last 4 weeks. Not sure how much atrophy there will be but I will have the HCG on hand regardless.

The Clomid dose is another area I’m not certain how to scale with my current cycle setup. Again, I would prefer to use less than more, especially since it seems most people don’t respond well to higher doses. I don’t think this cycle will shut me down hard but of course I could be wrong. I was considering using only 12.5 ED for the entire 4 weeks.

Anyone have any thoughts/opinions regarding the above topics?

Current Supplementation:

Multi Vit
Fish Oil
Vit D
Iodine
Vit C
Taurine
Whey
Creatine

Currently on hand:

Mk-2866
S4
GW
Forma Stanzol
Bridge
HCgenerate
Unleashed
Post Cycle
Liv 52
DAA

As I said above, I chose a small dose and short cycle because I would prefer to take things slow, to assess how my body responds…I can always increase the dose if I do another cycle. That being said, I would still like to know the thoughts and opinions of others regarding first cycle doses, duration, and using a short ester (also considering pinning test sus as a pre workout boost a few times a week), and PCT.

I would like to get some feedback and suggestions from experienced members of this forum. Thanks for reading my novel, I look forward to learn and receive some constructive criticism!

 

[Gearline]

My first cycle was before you were born o was chewing on syntek A50 when you were being potty trained like most you idiots I was 225 in high school idiot keep training another 10 years you'll make it... wtf go balls criticizing us...lol
And he's asking evo about sarms really wow
Keep listening to Brutus and cbs theyll turn you on to there ugl source .. you fucken sheep.if you were smart you would run from idiots like that ...

 

[Marcus]

What are you even talking about? I can't fuckin comprehend your point in this post... My advice is to put down the bottle for the night shamrock

 

[Gearline]

What are you even talking about? I can't fuckin comprehend your point in this post... My advice is to put down the bottle for the night shamrock

Well your guy insertnamehere is a newbie lol and he's screaming scammer is he just an idiot he did his first cycle ever does he even know what real gear is you guys gotta stop following these morons and really get real .. wtf
Honestly, just because they have loud mouth and have yet to post any pictures of themselves because they have no build. Why would you guys even listen to guys like like this OGH called them out to post pictures and he t they hide like girls.. shamrock called out another guy and he hides it's actually getting to the point you guys who are loudmouth gay avengers are just making th me selves show there true colors can't hide coward bud it's yellow just like there bellies.... wtf you wanna a follow these guys into battle wow...

 

[weighted chinup]

So this idiot posts up and this is his first cycle ever wtf... I've take bigger shits then the gear he's posting really you fucken even know what real gear is moron shut your.mouth idiot ...

You can take all the gear you want shamrock, you are still desperate and weak as a kitten.

If you knew anything about training you would realize that the stats of the lifter you are making fun of are actually extremely impressive. 225lb at 12 percent at that height is an absurdly high amount of LBM for a guy going into his first cycle to carry. Better than most guys who do cycle, even train-wrecks like yourself who have been cycling long before most of us 'idiots were born'.

I have never in my entire life seen anyone as bitter as you shamrock. Ever. I can smell the desperation in your constant shitposting. You're getting destroyed at Evo, so you resort to your normal attacks and insults. You can't help yourself. You couldn't even display an ounce of professionalism for even a second if your whole business depended on it.

Please feel free to engage me anytime in a discussion on training or nutrition, you have no problem calling out other lifters so I would love to see your vast knowledge on display.

 

[Marcus]

Well your guy insertnamehere is a newbie lol and he's screaming scammer is he just an idiot he did his first cycle ever does he even know what real gear is you guys gotta stop following these morons and really get real .. wtf

Do you even know how you were caught with fake gear? Do you fully understand what's going on or are you just reaching for shit? This is the same kind of stuff you pulled in your group funding project when people called you out. You started posting random shit that has nothing to do wih people's points

 

[Gearline]

Lol actual never been bitter life's good promise anyone who has actually purchased from me will tell you I'm a solid dude its just that all you guys are caught up with these meso clowns.. it's really weird how you follow them don't even fucken know these idiots..
I could understand if these guys were your friends but they just act like assholes on a message board tell me I'm wrong.. ?

 

[Gearline]

Do you even know how you were caught with fake gear? Do you fully understand what's going on or are you just reaching for shit? This is the same kind of stuff you pulled in your group funding project when people called you out. You started posting random shit that has nothing to do wih people's points

Marcus bud we have settled that gear issue everything had checked out name any other of our products you bought ? Non that's like say I know how a big mac tastes and never had one how am I wrong and I even told Dshep I would replace them so what's even the issue ?
The issue is you want me to act like a slaved nigger and beg for those guys approval brother I'm no one's slave... I've been legit from the get go... you want me to say me soo sorry you right masta Brutus and masta cbs oh yeah master please don't beat me so I can't sell gear are you so blind to the ugl garbage they feed you I already asked you my brother want free samples ? Step up like a true brother of iron and do what's right...
All these guys do is shoot rhetoric at you and like a poor flock of sheep you guys feel like there legit how so what have they done for you except post up so angry nasty bullshit posts don't fall for it my.meso brother need to fight the evil the cancer that's taken over Millard and this board ....

 

[Marcus]

Marcus bud we have settled that gear issue everything had checked out name any other of our products you bought ? Non that's like say I know how a big mac tastes and never had one how am I wrong and I even told Dshep I would replace them so what's even the issue ?
The issue is you want me to act like a slaved nigger and beg for those guys approval brother I'm no one's slave... I've been legit from the get go... you want me to say me soo sorry you right masta Brutus and masta cbs oh yeah master please don't beat me so I can't sell gear are you so blind to the ugl garbage they feed you I already asked you my brother want free samples ? Step up like a true brother of iron and do what's right...
All these guys do is shoot rhetoric at you and like a poor flock of sheep you guys feel like there legit how so what have they done for you except post up so angry nasty bullshit posts don't fall for it my.meso brother need to fight the evil the cancer that's taken over Millard and this board ....

God, the saddest and most pathetic thing about this post is that I am 100% sure you believe every word of it. You are truly lost shamrock. Besides, how would you know if I purchased? If I really wanted to test your gear, I would buy anonymously so you would not know who you were sending it too if you so happen to be a selective scammer.

This board is run by its members, you ran off because you didn't like the members, that was your right and privilege. No one gave a fuck. People here don't follow other people around, you have a twisted and paranoid fuckin mind. Like you said, this is a message board. If I thought any one was leading me around, I'd get the fuck out of here and kick my own ass. Stop being so narrow-minded

 

[weighted chinup]

The issue is you want me to act like a slaved nigger and beg for those guys approval

Unbelievable.

 

[Gearline]

I agree it should be run by its members but by decent members level headed and normal and also please do buy from me anonymously, your faulting me for saying these guys are bad news... as you all know anyone can post anything its called persona and those guys have you fooled... they won't even post a picture so we can see what they look like bodybuilding wise nothing cause you know I'm right... they like to cruise sites and act like they live the sport .. they don't

 

[Gearline]

Unbelievable.

It's true and you know you can suck the masta dick all day brother they call you a house nigga....