Gene Rychlak benches 965!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wic2111]

If your row the weight down its too tight or too light!!! Rowing the wieght can tear the shirt, which is quite a shock when it happens. Its quite ugly if you have ever seen it. The just need more wieght on the bar!!!! I think Gene uses a double ply Phenom.

 

[Phreezer]

The only reason we bench so low is because of our arch..which shortens our bench stroke.... Not because of the shirt..it's just simple distance.

 

[Grizzly]

eh, let's just say we disagree. I don't think it's worth debating over any further.

I almost did, but that's just not me and I can't disappoint people around here. LOL

You said it yourself, "From what I've heard, you can't just throw on a shirt and up your poundage 100 lbs. It takes skill and work to use the shirt." So, the shirt must not be an active device and must be the passive device that you claim everything else is. If the shirt doesn't add an instant 100lbs, then it must still be the lifter doing something special.

What about starting blocks? When they were first invented they were outlawed(or maybe it was few years later. whatever). Those goddamned well add to a sprinters ability to take off quicker. I don't hear you complaining about them.

And, without tying to argue, what is your take on chalk? That adds instant grip. How about a belt? Wrist wraps? Where do you draw the line?

 

[scherejs]

don't get me wrong bench shirt or not his bench press is nothing short of amazing, but can he wipe his own ass is my question. getdiesel

 

[Phreezer]

http://www.bodytechusa.com/videos.html

Here's the video boys.. just scroll down to the bottom and click the link... it's amazing!

 

[wic2111]

You have no clue about powerlifting at all do you Frosty

 

[Grizzly]

But chalk does actively do something. It automatically, without any effort on your part, increases the amount of weight you can deadlift. This is unlike the bench shirt. The bench shirt must be learned. Seems to me that the chalk is a bigger "cheating" device than the shirt any day.

Yes, wrist wraps do help support the wrist. They will then allow a weaker wristed person to press more. Of course, that's the same as the belt, so I know where you stand on that.

I would argue that those shoes ave very active. They allow you to have better form without actually learning anything new or perfecting your technique.

What is the event of a sprint? It is to see who RUNS the fastest. As such, the blocks, which increase acceleration time off the gun, have no place in the actual event. They don't have anything to do with running(the act inherent in a sprint) but they do decrease your time.

 

[MANWHORE]

Want to know what i think? Well,i'll tell you anyway.... That guy doesn't impress me at all. 1st of all he's about 4ft tall,the length of his whole arm is as long as my forearm,he is using a device which obviously helps him to get up more weight,and he is going only a short way down(hitting abs). I know what you said Phrezzer,and i understand it's all about getting up the weight no matter what it takes,so i see why it may be impressive among other PLers,but when someone tells me they can bench 900lbs,i expect to see them bench 900lbs. Who came up with this shirt anyway? Why is it better to get up more weight,even if it means haveing some kind of help from equipment worn on the arms? No offence to any PLers,but PLers with big fat guts,just don't impress me... Boy did that sound offensive

 

[Grizzly]

Sure, why not? They allow all sorts of shit in athletic events. If you want to be a purist, then, yes, let's have everyone run in compete in the nude as they did in the Greco/Roman times.

 

[Grizzly]

Oh yeah, and I forgot earlier, what about the hockey skate? Shall we disallow it(along with hightop basketball shoes) since it actively supports the ankle as a belt supports the core? Yes, let's make them skate on the soft leathered, no support figure skating skates.

 

[Grizzly]

And the icing on the cake.... What about AS? If you use test, you will get stronger even without lifting. It won't be nearly as much, but I do recall reading a study in which they tested them on sedentary individuals and the all gained LBM and 1RM strength. How's that for an active component?

 

[conan]

being a powerlifter for my first 3 years of training (11 total), i see both sides to this arguement.....first, a have used bench shirts and my bench increased about 60 lbs from the first time i tried one....thats a big jump, and if i used it regularly i could problably got even 90 lbs out of it....so i think bench shirts are cheating to a point...but if everyone is doing it to weres the harm...plus, the guy still had to press 800 lbs roughly without the shirts help.....which is impressive enough...

 

[MANWHORE]

I was actually impressed by Tanks 600lb bench,even though he bounced the weight a little. Let me ask the power lifters a question. Why do alot of PLers have big guts? Wouldn't it make more sense to lose the fat,since that's not helping strength and go down to a lower weight class and dominate it? Is this easier said than done? especially for squats and deads. They have to lift all that extra fat weight.

 

[Grizzly]

I don't think I can read this thread anymore.

 

[toyoda]

There was some guy getting ready for a bench comp the other day at the gym & I explained to my wife that the shirt he was wearing was a bench shirt. She said "oh it helps you bench more ? ""kind of like the suits the swimmers use in time trials for the games to help them swim faster she said" I said Shit honey you should get in on this debate over at meso

 

[Phreezer]

because you think you are always right...and no amount of convincing (or proof) will ever change your mind...

 

[wic2111]

I was actually impressed by Tanks 600lb bench,even though he bounced the weight a little. Let me ask the power lifters a question. Why do alot of PLers have big guts? Wouldn't it make more sense to lose the fat,since that's not helping strength and go down to a lower weight class and dominate it? Is this easier said than done? especially for squats and deads. They have to lift all that extra fat weight.

Gene is actually closer to 6ft and few inches tall. And 800lbs + is fukkin heavy so I would have say I am impressed! Most people lift more when they have a little extra bodyfat. Supports the joints. The only powerlifters that have huge guts are some of the superheavy weights. Hence SUPERHEAVY weight. Scot Mendelson (875lb bench), Brent Mikesell(1141lb squat and 2500lb total), Dan Kovaks(700lb + bench), and Ryan Kennelly(855 lb bench) with out a doubt have no gut and compete 308 and superheavy wieght classes. Steve Goggins has dominated at the 275lb wieght class and the the 242 lb wieghts class with a 10 times body wieght total. There are too many to mention. I would not be impressed by a 600 lb bench that was bounced when guys like Kennelly and others do a raw triple with no bounce, and way more expolsion. Not all plers have a gut and not all bodybuilders are fake tanned fags in tights.

 

[Phreezer]

Not all plers have a gut and not all bodybuilders are fake tanned fags in tights.

AMEN!!!!

 

[apollojay]

as i said in this thread earlier, i met gene a few weeks back and looked him eye to eye and i a 6'1"
-jay

 

[Grizzly]

Technically, my main put off was manwhore's typical ignorance on any subject physical(mma, bodybuilding, powerlifting, olympic lifting and probably football, but namely the first 4). But, Phreezer did hit on at least one aspect.

You should just come out and say it. There's no shame in it. Say, "I'm a shirtophobe. I hate shirts and all other pl equipment and there's nothing you can say to make me believe otherwise. My predjudices are ingrained and unchangeable. I will find any small loophole possible to make shirts terrible and all other athletic equipment acceptable." Just say it. It's alright, we won't hate you.

And don't take me the wrong way. I'm not trying to be a dick at all. You're clearly an intelligent fellow and I'm glad to see a non-moron present on the board. In fact, from what you've shown here, I think you might look into studying philosophy. I think you would like it and be good at it.

However, you've shown a complete lack of effort to even consider the other side of the argument. I love to argue(I've got a degree in philosophy myself) but it makes no sense to argue with a stone, since it can't/won't change. Unless you are willingly to objectively consider the other side, then the argument is futile.

For instance, at one time I was a flag waving commie, pinko bastard. Then I read "Atlas Shrugged". I said, well, geez, that's a pretty damned good argument right there. I think she's right and Marx is wrong. Thus, I changed my mind.

You, on the other hand, have proven to be unreachable through rational thought. You claim a shirt is as active as a spring, which has kinetic movement whereas a shirt doesn't, and everything else that enhances athletic performance isn't. Even when such things as a pole vault DIRECTLY increase the ability of the athlete. Even if you argue that such is the nature of the event, so, too, is equipment part of the nature of today's powerlifting competitions. The point is moot. Morevover, there is no activity present in a shirt. In fact, it makes activity hard to do. But, I haven't spent too much time defining the terms here, so I will stop so that I don't make a lame argument.