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You should provide an actual argument instead of just a meaningless passive aggressive remark , I'm guessing you got butthurt about my comment about "glazing chinese sources". keep running defense for sources you werido
The actual argument is that there IS a raw shortage in China. Factories are cleaning house for everything that is not officially allowed to manufacture and keeping low supplies to low margin products like DHTs/19-nors as far as we are concerned.

And like any sane business, the vendors are increasing prices due to supply disruption. Of course they are going to milk the situation: they ain't your buddy, friend, dude or bro that would say you know I got that cheap you can have it cheap too. No. FU. Supply and demand. Supply is limited, demand is high due to panic buying so price will be high.

If you can't comprehend simple economics, you should keep your trap closed and learn a few things along the way.
 
With the holidays here in the U.S. good luck with those prices. I have 2 packs still waiting on as well and those will be my last until prices go down..
 
The actual argument is that there IS a raw shortage in China. Factories are cleaning house for everything that is not officially allowed to manufacture and keeping low supplies to low margin products like DHTs/19-nors as far as we are concerned.

And like any sane business, the vendors are increasing prices due to supply disruption. Of course they are going to milk the situation: they ain't your buddy, friend, dude or bro that would say you know I got that cheap you can have it cheap too. No. FU. Supply and demand. Supply is limited, demand is high due to panic buying so price will be high.

If you can't comprehend simple economics, you should keep your trap closed and learn a few things along the way.
you are unable to grasp what I am saying so you interpret it as simply "supply and demand"

additionally,

if all you morons didn't go around promoting a shortage, they wouldn't be able to increase prices 3x, or as you say "milk the situation". if you idiots talk about it everyday and make it a big deal, and justify things the sources do, they wouldn't be able to "milk" it as much, but instead I see it all over this forum so they can "milk" it more.
Are you actually in china to confirm a shortage?

in your other comment, you say "this time it feels different"
Do you have some sort of magical ability to detect feelings from china over to wherever you are?

maybe it feels different, because they are coordinating to raise prices on everyone after pushing out all the little guys with their discounted gear

AND YOU TELL ME THAT " I " DONT UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS

you are a fool

its hilarious you tell me "they aint" your buddy", when you're the one having a para-social relationship with a chinese dude youve never met, making money off your posts.
 
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you are unable to grasp what I am saying so you interpret it as simply "supply and demand"

additionally,

if all you morons didn't go around promoting a shortage, they wouldn't be able to increase prices 3x, or as you say "milk the situation". if you idiots talk about it everyday and make it a big deal, and justify things the sources do, they wouldn't be able to "milk" it as much, but instead I see it all over this forum so they can "milk" it more.
Are you actually in china to confirm a shortage?

in your other comment, you say "this time it feels different"
Do you have some sort of magical ability to detect feelings from china over to wherever you are?

its hilarious you tell me "they aint" your buddy", when you're the one having a para-social relationship with a chinese dude youve never met, making money off your posts.
Don't shout at us!
We always still like you.
 
Panicked is what you took away from all the meme pics? Don't be silly. My state in this thread is better described as amused, entertained, joyful even.


It may or may not indicate an exit scam when a source accepts your money and stops shipping orders. It definitely indicates that people should stop ordering from him. Yet, some folks are continuing to throw good money after bad in here.

I will continue spreading that common sense, sprinkled with mirth, until the situation has resolved.
Why? Stan is behind 2-3 weeks at times but no ones calling scam or telling people not to order. Isn’t that the same exact scenario? And he’s domestic. It seems like you’re just picking and choosing who you apply to this.
 
jennifer working on replying all emails guys a lot of orders is being proceeded. our products getting lower and lower.. when restocking will be is not clear yet. grab your orders while you can.
 
Why? Stan is behind 2-3 weeks at times but no ones calling scam or telling people not to order. Isn’t that the same exact scenario? And he’s domestic. It seems like you’re just picking and choosing who you apply to this.
Never ordered from Stan, no reason to participate in his thread. Interesting logic though: we should be more accommodating here because other sources will also let you down. I'm starting to understand what Litre o' Test is always ranting about.
 
Never ordered from Stan, no reason to participate in his thread. Interesting logic though: we should be more accommodating here because other sources will also let you down. I'm starting to understand what Litre o' Test is always ranting about.
Once you have an understanding of how international mail works, Come check back in for a fruitful discussion on why you may have not yet received your package. None of your suspicions of an exit scam make any logical sense. There are many possibilities for the delay, Perhaps we can have a discussion about possibilities that might make sense, Like a delay in international mail. I have received international mail anywhere from 5 days to 6 weeks. So there is that very real possibility…
 
Why? Stan is behind 2-3 weeks at times but no ones calling scam or telling people not to order. Isn’t that the same exact scenario? And he’s domestic. It seems like you’re just picking and choosing who you apply to this.
Big difference there. Stan has prompt communication, is crystal clear on shipping times, and you never hear of shorted packs or quality issues. Every time I have ordered from him it has come in exactly the amount of time he had said it would. This last time was about two weeks, which was what he had posted it would be, due to the high demand he has been experiencing. Not shilling, just describing my and as far as I know every other members experience there.

GA was cheaper so you would expect things to be done in a lesser manner. However, how good is getting previously cheap gear if you never get it? I hate seeing guys get screwed. This whole system only works because we can collectively hold sources accountable. If a source is not delivering product, or if we should expect floaters, or any other manner of problems, we share that experience on the board so other members know what to expect. That allows the bad sources to fall by the wayside, and good sources grow. That IS economics! Maybe Marcus will come through, but we should not be giving more money and propping up a source if he isn't taking care of our members. The money stops flowing, maybe he will step up his game, or exit stage left. Either way, the choice is his to make as long as we quit propping him up.

It's encouraging to see tracking numbers from a few members, but no acknowledgement has been made of promos being shorted, which is the same as packs missing items. It is still prudent to cut him off until not one member can say they haven't received all orders in full. If he makes good, continue buying.

How many days late would your paycheck have to be before you quit showing up to work? We need to remember that we hold power as a group. We decide which sources survive here. I'm grateful to have the shared experiences of my peers to make informed decisions. Why throw that power away?!
 
LOL i got one thats even higher already!
seriously, miss me with that gutter oil, I'd rather pay $40 for some dude in the west that brews it themselves.

Also all that talk about shortages, Vendors use what popular members say to their advantage to manipulate the community and raise prices.

Oh you want advanced testing? Ok we will do it pay us more
oh you keep talking about shortages? Ok you're right, we have shortages pay us more.

seriously stop posting shit if you don't know how business works its embarrassing and making things difficult.

this whole forum is basically one customer and some of you are like the one guy in a boardroom giving the other business leverage.

keep making threads about a scarcity and you'll get scarcity prices.
Are you on the ground in China?

stop sucking off vendors or they will see you as weak and their ego inflated and triple their prices.

If this was a business meeting, do you give examples of reasons why the vendor should raise prices, or thank them for basic shit?

Stop running PR for chinese sources, whatever source gets the least amount of flak is the best, i dont want to see any glazing for simply doing what is expected in a business transaction.

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The same thing is happening at sources outside of MESO. Let's not start going down the road of "Talking about shortages are making prices go up.". Shortages are making prices go up. The list QSC put out of remaining kits still available days ago tells me there isn't some crazy amount of buying going on, just slow dwindling of stocks.

Anyway we can all relax. Plenty of members have assured us things will go back to normal in a few weeks. Warehouses will be full and prices lower than ever....
 

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