Stauros3315
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Since im selling this stuff to customers and i cant risk it to be crushed and since i inform them about guaicol and they are fine with this that makes me way away for being a retard you smartass
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You still a retard my man, Max of guiacol you need is 10℅ at best. You just throw the kitchen sink approach to it because you can't bother or your ain't bright enough to find a proper recipe for it.
Your clients are retarded as much as you doesn't change a thing
Stauros3315
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Do you ever say anything good about anyone or you are just one of these keyboard fighters that continuously offend ppl thinking that you know everything like you were born with all the knowledge planted in you brain? Since you know so much as you always claim since you are continuously insult ppl you should help the others not trashtalk all the time
IndividualMan
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he is pretty damn smart when it comes to finding the proper ratios for brews.
And he is very good at telling people that they are doing retarded stuff. No point arguing with him about that. 20%G is very retarded, unless you are living outside the arctic research station.
And he is very good at telling people that they are doing retarded stuff. No point arguing with him about that. 20%G is very retarded, unless you are living outside the arctic research station.
Stauros3315
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Maybe you are right but this is not the proper way to address to people all the time. If he is so smart as you claim then he could help people as a smart guy would do and not offend eveyone like a retard would do
IndividualMan
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smart and patient are not the same thing. Plus, offending people a bit is a part of the forum etiquette imo, you gotta give people shit for doing stupid stuff so those habits do not proliferate.
But i do get your point. feelz bad getting called stupid for something you have been / are doing, even if the thing was a bit stupid. Gotta work through that though.
But i do get your point. feelz bad getting called stupid for something you have been / are doing, even if the thing was a bit stupid. Gotta work through that though.
JQuid
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Thats what i was telling him. But thank you
JQuid
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Most clients are retarded. Most users are. Worldwide
I'm calling you retarded because your approach is the same as killing a mosquito with a flamethrower. If you saw something like that how would you call that individual? A retard.
An approach like this means only two things: you are stupid (and you shouldn't brew and sell) or you are lazy (and you shouldn't sell).
Laziness and not caring is what has kept down and in the prehistoric era brewing for so long (even so in the last year or two a lot has improved, finally).
I mean just because your client in their complete ignorance are ok with that it doesn't mean is ok to brew it this way isn't it?
I'm completely against using Guiacol but what I believe and do is not relevant to the discussion.
So assuming you wanna use a toxic as fuck substance like guiacol what at least one should do is limit at the possible minimum level the exposure to it.
Guiacol is strong as fuck the maximum concentration needed for a reasonable recipe is 10% and most of the time 5% is all you need.
Now if you weren't a lazy fuck you would have tried different ratios with high BB and just a tiny bit of guiacol and raising the latter just enough to make the recipe works.
As I don't work with guiacol I can't tell you the recipe but I bet 45% BB and 5% guiacol is probably enough for a 40mg/ml winstrol, if using a mixture of castor oil and EO you could probably lower the BB another 5% but this is just speculation as I don't use guiacol so I can't say for certainty it will work, sure as hell with 10% guiacol and 40% BB it will work 100% but as I tried to explain you should take your time and find the perfect or close to it ratio of both substances that achieve the result with the least amount of Guiacol in it.
Now you can cry me a river and fuck off I have waste already too much of my time trying to educate you not even on brewing but on ethic, yes because if you had a tiny bit of it you would feel bad in selling a garbage product like that.
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watchtymeflyyy
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Which brings me to the point I was making, that while not needed… Would it not make sense to just bring it to the melting point regardless of solvents? Because better safe than sorry. I don’t see any damage being done by bringing it to melting point.
No was just being silly. Way to go typing the phrase of the day. Nice to see someone writing something of substance here. Thank you for adding something of substance here.
im saying this test is faked until @AASraw releases itLooks like they sent you junk
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cousinmuscles
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They told me they will look into it after the weekend when they get back to the office. I would be fine if there was 11g in my bag or if they gave me an extra gift next order. There are no other hormones or anything else, the peaks are at the correct wavelengths, it seems they did a sloppy job in the purification and there are residual solvents, possibly moisture.
Here's ChatGPTs analysis to my raw data:
2. What That 11.9% Can and Cannot Be
What it CANNOT be (based on the chromatogram)
Because:- Only one peak appears
- No secondary peaks at 205 nm
- No shoulders, no baseline noise
- Other steroids
- Isomeric trestolone species (they absorb UV)
- Ester cleavage products
- Organic synthesis byproducts
- Aromatase inhibitors
3. What the ~12% Most Likely IS (Ranked)
A. Residual solvent (TOP contributor)
This is the most common explanation at this level.Typical solvents used in Trestolone synthesis/purification:
- Ethyl acetate
- Acetone
- MTBE
- Hexane traces
- Add mass
- Do not absorb strongly in UV
- Do not appear as peaks
B. Bound / adsorbed moisture
Steroid esters:- Are mildly hygroscopic
- Can hold surface moisture or lattice water
C. Inorganic residue (minor but possible)
Examples:- Sodium bicarbonate
- Sodium sulfate
- Trace salts from aqueous washes
- Add weight
- Are UV-invisible
D. Non-UV-active organic residue (unlikely but possible)
Examples:- Aliphatic oils
- Grease contamination
- High-boiling non-chromophoric residues
- Clean baseline
- No detector drift
4. Why This Happens in Trestolone More Than Test Cyp
This is important context.Trestolone Acetate:
- Short ester
- Crystallizes less “cleanly”
- More prone to trapping solvent
Testosterone Cypionate:
- Long ester
- Crystallizes very well
- Naturally excludes solvent
This is normal, not a red flag.
5. What This Means for Quality
Let’s be very clear:- Chemical purity: Very high
- Non-active mass: Physical contamination (solvent/water), not chemical impurities
- Safety / activity: Once dissolved/formulated, this fraction largely disappears
- Active % would likely jump into the 95–99% range
6. Pharma vs UGL Context (Updated)
| Material | Typical Active % |
|---|---|
| Pharma Trest (KF + GC dried) | 98–99% |
| High-end UGL Trest | 90–95% |
| Average UGL Trest | 80–88% |
| Your sample | ~88.1% |
7. How You’d Confirm This Definitively
If you wanted to prove what the 11.9% is:- Karl Fischer → moisture %
- GC-FID → residual solvents
- Vacuum drying + re-weigh → mass loss
Bottom Line (Corrected & Precise)
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