tileguy123
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Hows the Naps generics ?? lol
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Why do you ask bc based on the solid info supplied by IM NAPs is GTG 
flythechildren
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Are you saying these results are good or bad?
What is the hourly interval between the GH pinning and the blood draw?
flythechildren
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I wait 3.5 hours after pinning IM to have my blood drawn. The first two were good results. The last one had no HGH in it at all, despite injecting 5 IUs of generics. So the stuff from Astro and the pharma grade were both good. The kigtropin contained no HGH whatsoever.
Because peak GH levels plateau over a course of 2-4 post injection, 5 hours is to late for sure.
The best draw time probably lies somewhere between hours 2-3 not much sooner and not much later.
The best dose? 0.1IUs/KG.
The expected increase?
(For a purity of 90% or greater)
Roughly 15-25 ng/ml ABOVE BASELINE.
This only applies to a single dose above baseline and must NOT be used after sequential GH dosing.
Thus we are only interested in peak values with this schedule rather than steady state.
Since the latter is much more difficult to ascertain bc of differences in metabolism, protein binding, volume of distribution etc.
Jim
The best draw time probably lies somewhere between hours 2-3 not much sooner and not much later.
The best dose? 0.1IUs/KG.
The expected increase?
(For a purity of 90% or greater)
Roughly 15-25 ng/ml ABOVE BASELINE.
This only applies to a single dose above baseline and must NOT be used after sequential GH dosing.
Thus we are only interested in peak values with this schedule rather than steady state.
Since the latter is much more difficult to ascertain bc of differences in metabolism, protein binding, volume of distribution etc.
Jim
flythechildren
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Where did you get five hours from? GH peaks from IM injection 3-4 hours post injection, as is indicated by this graph.
Also, a test of 5IUs can be used to determine if the GH you are using is quality. The dose response curve of GH is not linear, so If I was to inject 10IUs of this GH I would be 19+ easily. Given how much pharma GH costs, I'm not going to do 10IUs for some stupid test. That's just too expensive.
I read where Serostim Gh is 18IU. So if you mix the GH with 1ml of bac. water you have 18IUs in a 1ml syringe. So .1ml of your solution would equal 1.8 IUs. of Serostim Is that right? I was previously getting the IUs and MLs confused once and a while. As I remember the old IP stuff came in an unmarked little box. Does anybody know how many IUs they were supposed to be? Not important, since it's long gone , but just curious. So, you should be taking about 10 IUs of the GH prior to the blood work?
Thanks
10 IUs of the Serostim would be a little over half your insulin syringe.
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10 IUs of the Serostim would be a little over half your insulin syringe.
flythechildren
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Just ad 1.8 mls of water. You'll have one IU per 10 IUs of liquid.
As you wish
Thanks Fly. I'm not using Serostim. I just put that as an example. I believe the RIPS is labeled 10 IUs. I don't know about all the others. But I guess that's what all this is about, how much of what is in what.
Your right Fly. But it's really difficult to get 1.8mls of the water into the 1ml insulin syringe.
flythechildren
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Use the same syringe twice. Draw one ml up the first time, and draw 80 units the next time. Proper mixage.Your right Fly. But it's really difficult to get 1.8mls of the water into the 1ml insulin syringe.
I'm teasing ya Fly. But thanks for trying to help
. I put all my GH into insulin syringes and keep em in the fridge...
ChuggingChugging
The high end dose response curve that Lilly, the manufactures of Humatrope, cites uses 0.1 IU/Kg with the blood drawn roughly TWO hours later.
Good...I had blood drawn today about 2 1/2 hrs. after.
GWhere did you get five hours from? GH peaks from IM injection 3-4 hours post injection, as is indicated by this graph.
Also, a test of 5IUs can be used to determine if the GH you are using is quality. The dose response curve of GH is not linear, so If I was to inject 10IUs of this GH I would be 19+ easily. Given how much pharma GH costs, I'm not going to do 10IUs for some stupid test. That's just too expensive.
Looks like that study is quite limited w two subjects. Almost all DRCs I've seen show GH peaks and the plateaus between hours 2-4 post injection.
What was the dose in this study?
flythechildren
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!0 IU I believe, but don't quote me. I'll search datbtrue for other graphs later tonight. 2-4 hours post injection is the peak time, on that we agree. I never said anything about testing 5 hours after injection. Not sure where you got that from.
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