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So my girlfriend wants to cycle. I'm clueless.

I don't quite know her stats, just that she weighs about 176. BF is moderate. If I had to guess? Somewhere along the lines of 25%? She's quite.. Busty.. Not sure how much that comes into effect when counting women's BF.

Anyway, so she's wanting to jump on gear.. She will take oral, she'll pin.. Doesn't matter to her. She'll let me pin it in her ass for her if she's too afraid (giggity).

So from my research I've got her looking at:
Week 1 - 10mg Anavar, 10mg winny, 20mcg clen
Week 2-7 - 20mg Anavar, 10mg Winny, 40mcg clen
Week 8 - 10mg anavar, 10mg winny, 20mcg clen

She's strong as an ox.. When we met she was squatting 225 for sets of 10. Since we've met last year she was on Mirena which fucked her hormones up so badly she gained 25 pounds and completely lost hope (no matter how hard we dieted she couldn't lose weight). Now that we're off of that, she's gained quite a bit of muscle back but still has a lot of excess weight from that birth control. She's no stranger to dieting hard and training harder (hell she pushes me to dropset just about everything to failure). We're responsible for each other's growth and it's actually pretty awesome being with someone who pushes you.

I also have to mention that I have had her on var before, she took winny a while before we met, and she took clen by it self while we were together since I had some left over. So she's had all 3 of these compounds before, but never together.

Please help because I'm clueless and I don't want to fuck up her body internally.. If I do that to myself well then that's because I'm a dumbass and I'll deal with the consequences.
 
I'm just going to go ahead and tell you the two orals is a waste.

I seen you asking questions on that other thread, the advice I gave her would be the same for you. You cold put her on a eq var cycle, just don't see a point in running two orals. You can gain on anavar I have seen it done in 3 girls I help, and they all ran the same anavar that came back 10mg of pure anavar... So the thing about not being able to put on weight with anavar kinda blows my mind.

You can cut or bulk on about any aas if your diet is to that nature. I'm not going to say someone else might not react to it the same, but I have seen it done and done it myself.

You could do this

1-16 60mg eq
1-4 10mg anavar
4-10 20mg anavar
Run clen where you got it

You could also get her on some gh or frag, good quality frag will cut bf.
 
Sounds reasonable to me. I like these low doses compared to mine.. Easier on the wallet.

I guess I should comment and say her goal at the moment is to get lean as hell before summer. She wants to get lean and have a good base to work with before we start hitting it hard and getting her ready for a show.
 
Ya girls need very little lol, makes cycles cheaper. If you get her diet figured out she will drop bf. I'm not saying she has a lot because she don't look like it in the picture, but I have an idea in my head what she wants to look like.

Like I said you could get her on gh, but frag will cut bf without getting some of the other stuff you get with gh. It is usually also a little cheaper, but you want to get good quality. I'm not going to go into detail on a diet only you guys will know what works when she tries them. I don't see how people could give someone a diet plan and not even know them or be around them to see their changes.

She's working with a good base just keep at it, if you ever need any help you can always hit me up. I'm no pro but I do have some experience with this stuff.
 
As we spoke a little in the other thread. She does have a good base. Yes I imagine she is in the high 20's low 30's BF% wise... she looks soft. But it's not a bad thing of course. Plus females have naturally higher BF anyway than men and if she's busty...

I wouldn't mix the winny and var together. I would pick one. Winny or Var... they are very different compounds, I agree but running them together, there are better options.

The reason why I said var will not add that much weight as Achilles said is because it is true... if you compare the two compounds, same diet, same training, and all aspects the same except one does var and the other does winny. The one with winny will add on more weight quicker than the one on var. Var isn't designed to add on a lot of mass quickly, it is slow lean gains. Both compounds can be used for cutting and bulking... really any compound can be... what I am saying is that all variables identical and comparing these two, if you want more mass and quickly then winny is the way to go.

In her case, if she wants to lean down, harden up and put on lean mass, then in her case I would actually go the winny route. If she's wanting the physique look, she can't really do both at once without proper diet and training. Make sure her protein and good fats are in check, watch her carb choices. It all plays a super important role in all this as you probably know. Plus women are super tricky as we are complete weirdos with food and how it effects us on daily basis.

What I do think that would work well for her and what her goals are is NPP and Winny... that combo will add lean mass and keep her vascular and defined. I would keep her doses at 30-50mg a week of NPP and 15-25mg winny a day max. It will give her more size too. She does have room to grow. As I said, she does have a great base. And in reality, the scale means nothing. She's changing her body composition and sometimes the scale will go up and sometimes down or even stay the same. I would do a 6-8 week run of that then switch over to var next run. Maybe a little Primo or EQ to fine tune and evaluate the next steps.

As for fat burners, I suggest the same as the other post you saw in the other thread I responded. It will preserve her muscle and it will lean her out.

Diet is key in all this, as always. Along with CARDIO and overall training. Maybe focus on high reps 4 sets so she can build but define and tone...and do low reps high weight for areas that she needs to grow and fill out.
 
I guess I didn't mention... the NPP would be broken up to e3d pins, 30-50mg/week... the Primo E would be 30-50mg/week or EQ 40-60mg/week with pins twice a week.... you can get away doing it once per week but I found better to split them up and keeping the levels up and even all throughout. Primo and EQ can be run longer as well 16-20 weeks. She will need to watch and pay attention to her body... women tend to be a lot more aware than men (sorry no offence) so she should notice the slightest changes... if she has any sides, good or bad... she will know pretty quickly... if the side is undesirable then she needs to back off the dose or stop... that will be her call... sometimes just lowering the dose helps and eliminates the side, unless you are at minimums (example 5mg var) then just stop. I guess you and her will know once you get there. If she is aware of what's happening then she can prevent many unpleasant experiences... we are all different and sometimes just gotta experiment a little but pay close attention to our bodies.
 
GearGodess said:
I guess I didn't mention... the NPP would be broken up to e3d pins, 30-50mg/week... the Primo E would be 30-50mg/week or EQ 40-60mg/week with pins twice a week.... you can get away doing it once per week but I found better to split them up and keeping the levels up and even all throughout. Primo and EQ can be run longer as well 16-20 weeks. She will need to watch and pay attention to her body... women tend to be a lot more aware than men (sorry no offence) so she should notice the slightest changes... if she has any sides, good or bad... she will know pretty quickly... if the side is undesirable then she needs to back off the dose or stop... that will be her call... sometimes just lowering the dose helps and eliminates the side, unless you are at minimums (example 5mg var) then just stop. I guess you and her will know once you get there. If she is aware of what's happening then she can prevent many unpleasant experiences... we are all different and sometimes just gotta experiment a little but pay close attention to our bodies.
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Thank you for your input. I was reading and found a lot of women really loved their results on primo and var. Would you recommend having her on 30mg/week primo and 20/week var for 8 weeks?
 
corbin said:
Thank you for your input. I was reading and found a lot of women really loved their results on primo and var. Would you recommend having her on 30mg/week primo and 20/week var for 8 weeks?
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If you go the primo and var route.... I would do it longer than 8 weeks... both those compounds are fairly slow... I would do 16-20 weeks primo to be honest then add var at 4 weeks and do 12 weeks of var. Var and Primo are my ALL TIME FAVE cycle.

I would start 30mg/wk primo for the first 2-3 weeks, see how she feels, then increase to 50mg as I think she may be ok with it, then add var week 4 at 10mg then increase to 20mg if all good.
 
GearGodess said:
If you go the primo and var route.... I would do it longer than 8 weeks... both those compounds are fairly slow... I would do 16-20 weeks primo to be honest then add var at 4 weeks and do 12 weeks of var. Var and Primo are my ALL TIME FAVE cycle.

I would start 30mg/wk primo for the first 2-3 weeks, see how she feels, then increase to 50mg as I think she may be ok with it, then add var week 4 at 10mg then increase to 20mg if all good.
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Thank you so much for your help!
I can't wait to get my girl on stage.
I'll either use this thread or make another to keep her progress tracked for you guys (hope to god she doesn't completely lose her 36DDD after this)
 
corbin said:
Thank you so much for your help!
I can't wait to get my girl on stage.
I'll either use this thread or make another to keep her progress tracked for you guys (hope to god she doesn't completely lose her 36DDD after this)
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HAHA I hate to tell you.... you may have to say 'good bye' ...I was a 34DDD before (they were perfect! And I was still lean) then ended up 32C....and then had to make an investment and now are sporting a 32G ;) ...don't worry... at least there are ways around it and we can just buy a new better set of twins! lmao!
 
ohhh... if you are getting her prepped for show, invest in proviron and nolva for her.... it's a great combo to get us that final dry and vascular but full look... it works wonders in the last few weeks of prep.
 
GearGodess said:
HAHA I hate to tell you.... you may have to say 'good bye' ...I was a 34DDD before (they were perfect! And I was still lean) then ended up 32C....and then had to make an investment and now are sporting a 32G ;) ...don't worry... at least there are ways around it and we can just buy a new better set of twins! lmao!
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:( nothing better than the original
 
corbin said:
:( nothing better than the original
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Not necessarily... I thought so too at first... now... I wouldn't go back... especially since I'm in my late 30's and things are supposed to be going south as you age so this way i can avoid it... they will always smile... lol

You should also look into gh for her... again as I discussed in that other thread... it will keep her skin elasticity as well... if she'll want more size then 2iu would be a good starting point...

Make sure you keep us all updated on how it goes too...
 
GearGodess said:
Not necessarily... I thought so too at first... now... I wouldn't go back... especially since I'm in my late 30's and things are supposed to be going south as you age so this way i can avoid it... they will always smile... lol

You should also look into gh for her... again as I discussed in that other thread... it will keep her skin elasticity as well... if she'll want more size then 2iu would be a good starting point...

Make sure you keep us all updated on how it goes too...
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2 iu a day?
 
corbin said:
2 iu a day?
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Yup 2-3iu daily is a good dose for female growth... I've known some doing 4iu but I think that's a bit excessive. .. usually that's the next stage for transition to bb.... but just for the well being that I described before, all she needs is 1iu daily.
 
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