I think that this is the real cruz here, no matter the number that comes back, if he is asymptomatic for ASIH and feels "normal" again, then no real reason to treat anything.
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Giving up Steroids for Life - Long Term Log
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tenpoundsleft
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True, but how many on this site stop at the "treatment" level"? ;-)
No, I am there with you (quite literally in this case since I didn't stop at treatment) but I am an optimist.
Well, this is why I am keeping this log.
I have no doubt I am going to lose muscle mass, strength, and increase recovery time. But I don't care. I'd rather be skinny, athletic, fertile, and ALIVE than not. As long as I can go running a few days a week, don't turn into a fat ass, and can have kids - I'm good. Honestly, so many former bodybuilders have such shit bodies in old age, I'm REALLY hoping I can get slim and trim before I'm too old.
August 30, 2016
It has now been a bit over a month since my last test/primo injection, and over a week since I ended HCG. I'm feeling a bit more fatigued in the evening than usual, but concentration is better and I'm feeling better than I expected. Feelings of depression are becoming less frequent, which I find usually takes a month.
I've only been doing light lifting and running, and so far, so good.
It's a real drag though, thinking about how far out in the future this all is. I don't plan on getting blood work until November. So, I've got 2 months minimum, of wondering. At least I'm feeling pretty good.
It has now been a bit over a month since my last test/primo injection, and over a week since I ended HCG. I'm feeling a bit more fatigued in the evening than usual, but concentration is better and I'm feeling better than I expected. Feelings of depression are becoming less frequent, which I find usually takes a month.
I've only been doing light lifting and running, and so far, so good.
It's a real drag though, thinking about how far out in the future this all is. I don't plan on getting blood work until November. So, I've got 2 months minimum, of wondering. At least I'm feeling pretty good.
I missed this. I'm 6'-2", 220 pounds. There are way bigger guys, but I'm bigger than most everyone.
About 3.5 years ago, I was out of my mind. Did 2 tren cycles with not enough time off, and I crashed big time. This was March of 2013. I was doing probably 100mg EOD each of tren/mast/prop.
Since then, I've done either test only, test/mast, or for the test/primo.
I've found even with primo, I have to keep doses low at 400mg pw. Anything more than that, and like mast, it makes me a dick and increases my blood pressure. I tried running a gram of the stuff this summer, and I felt like shit. I cut the dose down to 600, but eventually called it quits.
Well, ol' Hobson was trying to prevent a form of Tragedy of the Commons by "guiding" his customers to the right horse. There are only two chestnuts in Eryxi's stableand they're not performing as hoped for.
I had intended to point out the inevitable, that he's aging too, and will he really be satisfied with a natural test level a notch or two above what we think of as the TRT threshold? (let's hope for bloods showing 500+)
No intention of belittling his effort, just tossing another perspective into the ring.
We'll see, but again - as long as my libido lets me actually have sex, and I have the strength to go running or cycling, and I am more or less and able to function professionally, I will be good.
chop204
Member
Subbed to this thread, good luck with everything bro.
Been almost three weeks since I updated this thread, and 7 weeks since my last pin. Feeling good, overall. Looking back, this was actually a difficult recovery. A lot of depression and anxiety, which is finally abating.
I'm going to run my PCT for another 2 weeks or so, then wait a month to get bloods.
I'm going to run my PCT for another 2 weeks or so, then wait a month to get bloods.
pierrebobin
New Member
How do you feel now? How are the numbers? mood, sex drive, nrj?
Really sorry for the late reply.
My numbers stabilized in the 500s, mood has been average - ups and downs, and energy was overall good but not great. I'm still in better shape than 95% of 39-year old men, but I have been finding it harder and harder to engage in regular exercise. Interestingly, even after all this time, I'm still pretty muscular despite using machines for probably 50% of my strength training. I don't lift super heavy weights anymore. Sex drive I think is OK for a guy my age. Yeah, if I ordered some test prop and injected 100mg, I'd probably be going wild. But that's really just not a priority for me.
I'm going to get full labs done after the holidays and see where my numbers stand for everything. I'm seriously considering going on doctor managed TRT at this point. I've been worried about doing so as the results seemed mixed for regular guys (not those blasting and cruising though).
It's a tough call in this game. I wish there was an ideal solution But, at this point, I would rather be able to hit the gym in the morning and hit the boxing gym or play tennis in the evenings, even if it means my sex drive is impaired somewhat.
All of that said, there are times I think of cycling again. But, I'm done with black market gear, even though I've honestly been amazed with the quality of everything I've purchased in the past. But, I always stuck to high end shops like NDG. I want to get product from a pharmacy, have doctors monitor my labs regularly, and have insurance pay for it. If I can get them to.
So, that's my story!
I went through a bout of depression many years ago when my mom passed and I tried a few of the drugs for that from my doc and they all made me even worse! Testosterone makes me feel awesome same with training and following my routine with military precision lol. If it's wasn't for bodybuilding I'd be a fucking opiod/alcohol abuser and most likely dead or in prison. I don't NEED the gear, but I don't NEED blowjobs either, but both are fun as fuck for me
To the people who are sad I just say do what makes you happy aside from hurting others of course, but some people just can't be happy or content unfortunately.
To the people who are sad I just say do what makes you happy aside from hurting others of course, but some people just can't be happy or content unfortunately.
I went through a bout of depression many years ago when my mom passed and I tried a few of the drugs for that from my doc and they all made me even worse! Testosterone makes me feel awesome same with training and following my routine with military precision lol. If it's wasn't for bodybuilding I'd be a fucking opiod/alcohol abuser and most likely dead or in prison. I don't NEED the gear, but I don't NEED blowjobs either, but both are fun as fuck for me
To the people who are sad I just say do what makes you happy aside from hurting others of course, but some people just can't be happy or content unfortunately.
How old are you? How long have you been training? How many cycles have you run?
I'm just telling my story in this thread. Do what you like, but it's just not a lifestyle most can or want to maintain for the long term.
Hotrods12
New Member
Just know if you decided to go the Doctor TRT way, if you ever want to do a cycle again, you will only be able to get away with one, maybe 2 tops a year. He will send you for blood work twice a year. Sometimes more. I know mine does. Its been almost 6 years now. But good luck to you tho. With whatever you choose to do.
I'm mid 40's, been training since 13-14 and BODYBUILDING since I was 17-18 and I've ran 2-3 "cycles" per year since I was in my mid 20's give or take.
MOST guys I know are in this for the long haul and prefer this type of lifestyle and MANY of the fellas/ladies here are the same way. Most of us play the long game brother and that means we are in for the long term. You may not like it at all, but there's 100 of us for every one of you so perhaps the issue is on you?
I appreciate your point of view and your story, but when it comes to running gear you are part of the minority and if you don't like gear or you want to convert people form using gear like door to door religious fucks who try to convert weak minded people to their wacko beliefs.......well good luck to yah my man lol
EcpertRealistic
Banned
Yuppers lol. Clomid turned me into a postpartum woman back in the day and NEVER AGAIN with that shit! Was seeing spots everywhere on just 50mgs/eod and I see others saying use at 150mgs/ed lol?!?!?!? Like fuck no bruh!
I'm mid 40's, been training since 13-14 and BODYBUILDING since I was 17-18 and I've ran 2-3 "cycles" per year since I was in my mid 20's give or take.
MOST guys I know are in this for the long haul and prefer this type of lifestyle and MANY of the fellas/ladies here are the same way. Most of us play the long game brother and that means we are in for the long term. You may not like it at all, but there's 100 of us for every one of you so perhaps the issue is on you?
I appreciate your point of view and your story, but when it comes to running gear you are part of the minority and if you don't like gear or you want to convert people form using gear like door to door religious fucks who try to convert weak minded people to their wacko beliefs.......well good luck to yah my man lol
Friend, your needlessly aggressive and confrontational response is demonstrative of why many people should reconsider the use of these drugs. While I'm dubious of your claim, the reality is that it is you who are very much the minority. Very few people run 60+ cycles in their lives, simply for the reason you should be at your genetic potential by now. You should be on TRT, as I am considering.
I mean, come on, you've only been on this site for a month. This site has been around since the mid 1990s. You're a 45-year old man with such a loser life you've finally decided internet trolling is the way to bring some meaning to your otherwise meaningless life?
I have no "issues". Recovery for me has been complete.
I highly suggest you see a psychiatrist, and you should almost certainly stop using steroids. There is simply no reason for cursing, or to suggest I am proselytizing.
First off kudos on your decision and the road your embarking on; more power to you. But I do have to disagree in the sentiment that AAS makes you a dick or aggressive. IMO AAS pronounce those traits if they were already part of your personality. If you're a dick on AAS it just means you were a mini or closet dick before you took AAS. IMO hormones don't add anything to your personality; they just enhance what you already are. That's just my experience though.
Daveanthony
New Member
I know exactly what your saying. Somedays i just want to feel “normal” then other days I’m like fuck this i want to juice again. Why use Hcg during pct? Doesn’t it suppress your testosterone? Also antidepressants will decrease your testosterone as well, probably the cause of my low test at 26. Why not try trt doses of test ? Or maybe just clomid for awhile. Theres alot of natural supplements you can try that are proven to work as well or much better than prescription poison antidepressants.
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