Going on HCG doubled my T levels.

[pmgamer18]

Doing 150 mgs. of Depo T shots every week had my Total T at 686 range for a young man my Dr. goes by this is 262 to 1593.
After 15 shots doing 500 IU's 3 times a week my Total T went up to 1136. This is where I feel very good. So what this must mean is my Testis are now making T.
My E2 is up to 50 this may or may not have anything to do with the higher T levels. I was doing a low dose of Indolplex/DIM. I knew it was going up I was breaking out in a rash. I find it odd that when my E2 levels go up I break out in a rash in the same spots under my arms just above my arm pit holding my arm up. And on the back of my legs just up from my ankle. I am going back up to one pill a day for 3 days then down to one half a pill.
My Free T is 36.6 range 8.8 to 27 also for a young man age 20 - 39 yrs. age. I am 61 I must say I have never felt this good in 21 yrs. I am losing weight getting out and walking every day for an hour. And working around the house. I told my Dr. today "It Feels Good To Feel Good". My Dr. is staying the course on my treatment not changing anything. Dam I feel Good Thank You Dr. John for the info that has given me my life back.
Phil

 

[Michael T]

That's great !

That is great Phil! I am also at the point where the gels are not
working and my days are filled with fatigue. I am soon to make the trip up to
Michigan to see Swale. I am optomistic about this doctor from everything I've read. This will make numero 3 for me. Your posts have been encouraging !

Michael T,

 

[HeadDoc]

so it took a little kick in the nuts to feel better--whatever it takes. Glad to hear your news.

 

[SWALE]

Phil--

That's great news!

Describe this rash to me. I want to hear all about it. I may have heard about this in someone else.

 

[pmgamer18]

The rash starts when my E2 goes up it comes out in the same spots. I get them under my arms if I hold my arms up the rash is not in the pit of my arms but just above and below. I also get them on the back of my legs Calfs. The rash on my Calfs has left a mark on my skin when the rash gose away. The spot on my Calfs is about one inch and a half long and one half an inch wide. Just one spot on each leg and about the same place. Also if I eat shrimp when my E2 is high I will break out in hives the size of a Quarter or 25 cents. Taking a hot shower makes me itch all over and I have big red blotches over most of my upper body. I can't go into my spa when this E2 is up for the same reason. I have had this problem for yrs. then when I read about high E2 and had it tested I was very high. All of this goes away when I get my E2 down around 10 to 30. It is dam hard to keep it there.
Phil

 

[bcachot]

enanthate seemed to make my e2 high as well. After a bit of experimentation my doc and I worked out that .125 mg of Arimidex ED (that's an eighth of a tab) was all that was required to keep it spot on. Its not cheap, but a pack at that dose lasts about 8 months.

If you are in the States you can buy it as a 'research chemical' in liquid form. Not only is it much cheaper, but the dosing is far more convenient. Anyone who has tried to break an Arimidex into 8 pieces with a razor blade knows what I'm talking about

 

[pmgamer18]

Believe me Indolplex/DIM works much better for me then Arimidex. Yet my Dr. says to do both on block E2 and the other converts it into good E.
Phil

 

[bcachot]

Believe me Indolplex/DIM works much better for me then Arimidex. Yet my Dr. says to do both on block E2 and the other converts it into good E.
Phil

What do you mean by 'much better'

 

[maxzax]

Bcachot,

Where could you get liquid arimidex?

What are your E2 levels and how often do you take 0.125mg of Arimidex (Im pretty sure ED means every day, but just want to make sure)

What type of HRT are you on?

Thanks!

enanthate seemed to make my e2 high as well. After a bit of experimentation my doc and I worked out that .125 mg of Arimidex ED (that's an eighth of a tab) was all that was required to keep it spot on. Its not cheap, but a pack at that dose lasts about 8 months.

If you are in the States you can buy it as a 'research chemical' in liquid form. Not only is it much cheaper, but the dosing is far more convenient. Anyone who has tried to break an Arimidex into 8 pieces with a razor blade knows what I'm talking about

 

[maxzax]

That's good news Phil, it looks like your testes are still working after being on TRT for the last 10 years. So you're probably not primary hypo.

 

[HeadDoc]

pmgamer18, do you think your skin condition could be hives? Hives can be brought out by stress and other internal and environmental conditions. Further, some guys have reported depression with high E2--I would not be surprised that for some the same condition could percipitate a steep rise in anxiety. Assessing such vulnerability will be the subject of another thread. Anyhow, here's a thread with ictures of hives. I'm not posting to hawk the product--which I know nothing about.

http://www.lacitrex.com/

 

[SWALE]

Good call on the differential list, HeadDoc.

Let's not advertise for illegal drug sales here please, maxzax.

PM--The itchiness while showering is a symptom of polycythemia. Have you had a CBC run?

Arimidex has a 5 day half-life. You needn't dose it every day. Every other, or third, day is fine.

 

[pmgamer18]

Yes I have had a CBC done it was done on the last blood test so what do I look for. I will try doing this when I take Arimidex next time.
I don't know why the rash and panic goes away when my E2 levels are normal between 10 to 30. But I never had this problem until I started on TRT and as I got older it got worse.
Phil

 

[maxzax]

Sorry Swale,

Won't do it again.

Thanks!

Good call on the differential list, HeadDoc.

Let's not advertise for illegal drug sales here please, maxzax.

PM--The itchiness while showering is a symptom of polycythemia. Have you had a CBC run?

Arimidex has a 5 day half-life. You needn't dose it every day. Every other, or third, day is fine.

 

[bcachot]

Bcachot,

Where could you get liquid arimidex?

What are your E2 levels and how often do you take 0.125mg of Arimidex (Im pretty sure ED means every day, but just want to make sure)

What type of HRT are you on?

Thanks!

The 'liquid Arimidex' or Anastrozole (Arimidex is the brand name for anastrozole) I referred to sometimes goes under the brand name of Liquidex. There is no doubt that this product was designed for steroid athletes. However it is a rather less expensive source of anastrozole which has many legitimate uses. To my understanding this product can be legitimately purchased in the US due to some 'research chemical' loophole. However, I could be wrong, so check your local and federal laws to make sure you are not doing anything illegal blah, blah.

Actually the half-life of Arimidex is 2 days according to the product note, not 5. Steady state concentrations reached within 7 days of daily dosing. So it is not necessary to take Arimidex every day like I do. Just like its not necessary to inject yourself with enanthate every week. I do it because it is convenient to do so and because a daily dose will unquestionably give you more even levels than one every 2 days.