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Yes, this is pretty normal. Some guys will tell you 1iu = 100igf but that is not always normal either.@GoodLyfe
I am pretty sure this is normal. I am in my 30s. I think most people will say it's about 80 igf for every unit of hgh
80 point increase from 4iu isn’t because your body is inefficient at converting gh to igfYes, this is pretty normal. Some guys will tell you 1iu = 100igf but that is not always normal either.
There are many processes going on in the body that determine how efficient or inefficient your body converts to igf-1. It is not a linear process or even a predictable process for that matter. There are many variables that can sway the results either positively or negatively.
Please explain what you mean. I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say.80 point increase from 4iu isn’t because your body is inefficient at converting gh to igf
I think he thinks that exogenous hgh "adds" to endogenous igf instead of replacingPlease explain what you mean. I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
No I’m saying that igf of 300 from 4 iu when your baseline is 230 means the gh is underdosedI think he thinks that exogenous hgh "adds" to endogenous igf instead of replacing
Possibly. We will see. This is always an interesting subject to discuss because there is no a=b when it comes to igf #s.I think he thinks that exogenous hgh "adds" to endogenous igf instead of replacing
Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification. I wish it were that easy. That’s kind of like saying a source has under-dosed Test E because someone was only a 5x responder while someone else was an 8x responder to the same dose. It just doesn’t work that way for everybody.No I’m saying that igf of 300 from 4 iu when your baseline is 230 means the gh is underdosed
Gotcha. I think I may just need to crank it up to 6.(just brought it up to 5). My body is a little weird...No I’m saying that igf of 300 from 4 iu when your baseline is 230 means the gh is underdosed
This^^ I get the fact some convert to IGF better than others, but only going up 70 on 4iu is very suspect for having under dosed GH.No I’m saying that igf of 300 from 4 iu when your baseline is 230 means the gh is underdosed
I Also should add that I added 1.1ml assuming it's 11 units per vial. It seems consistent with other people's reports to be honest. I'll go ahead and retest in a few weeksThis^^ I get the fact some convert to IGF better than others, but only going up 70 on 4iu is very suspect for having under dosed GH.
I understand this line of though. That is why I test the GH regularly to make sure what I sell is what people get.This^^ I get the fact some convert to IGF better than others, but only going up 70 on 4iu is very suspect for having under dosed GH.
I guess I should add my igf without any enhancements was 194. It was 234 on testI understand this line of though. That is why I test the GH regularly to make sure what I sell is what people get.
Maybe it’s a storage issue? A reconstitution issue? A conversion issue?
There is a lot to think about.
Or it may be as simple as breaking down the math of it.
He said his baseline is 234.
He scored 312 off 4iu/split dose
312 divided by 4 = 78 per iu
Most people say the body produces roughly the equivalent of 2iu per day naturally. 2iu X 78 =156 igf naturally.
He produces 234 naturally so that is closer to 3iu. 3iu x 78 = 234
So adding 1iu on top of his natural production would equal 234 + 78 =312.
Idk. Just thinking out loud.
I know some one would ask for the quoteEven though some users are low responders for conversion to igf-1 doesn't mean that GH isn't beneficial.
IGF-1 isn't the end all or be all for running GH.
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The crazy dreamsI am not too worried about it, I am actually happy about my physical response on the HGH
Again, even for the sleep effect I would be running this.
I was constipated as fuck one time. All I kept dreaming about was taking a shit.The crazy dreams