Group home brew crowd funding project

[shamrockbear]

So after being burned a few times by low dosed and who knows what else is in ugl gear I have decided to take matters into my own hands. I have like 500grams or more of test Cyp (more than I ever could use) my idea is have mythotic or angus mass spec the raws usually around $100 at that point we can acertain how much powder would make the appropriate dosage say like 250mg equals 13.5 grams per vial ect. I would home brew it yes I have all the filters, pump and crimper, BB BA. and vials. If I made say for example 50 bottles say me plus 5 guys would get 10 each. Of course I would have to come up with a price around $35-40 a vial because of supplies obviously and testing. Shipping could be flare rate for $6 priority mail with tracking, ld then do it again we can take a poll, and with a different compound I think this would be as close to Pharma gear you get obviously not dust or sterile as possible but will do my best. I would need like 5 guys or vets willing to do it with me like crowd source funding. Everything would be anonymous of course... Thoughts on this. ?
Im open to ideas but I think for the testing and risk and supplies involved its the best possible gear you would be able to get. I would be willing to get the ball rolling and get the raws out for testing..

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Soooo....you wanna be a source but you want to raise the startup costs from members before you have a product or history of sourcing? Sounds kind of problematic

 

[1forthegeeks]

I mean nice idea if it was you and five buddy's you know in person, but this is indeed sourcing.

Your just having everyone prepay.

There's no co op grows for gear, that's only weed my friend.

You might as well start a new thread as a source. There is nothing you mentioned that will protect them from getting burned by you.

 

[devildog93]

When i said a single product source would be a good idea i meant just that. I think it would simplify things for the supplier and the consumer. I know a lot of people would be willing to pay more than the $40 standard for gear that was actually solid and consistent. A group buy with people you don't know would be a shot in the dark, and pre-ordering seems like a no-no.

 

[catsupbot]

 

[shamrockbear1]

I hear what you guys are saying I would only collect the money after the testing that's fair.. And having 5 people on board is not risky we all know the vets and if you say sourcing for 5 people is a dealer I guess wouldn't you rather have solid gear do he same price proven with mass spec. Even before you get it so the source usually says its not fault its China buyou know what your getting with me at that simple.

 

[pmac928]

Shamrock I think your heart is in the right place but everyone else said it. We all have been burned and it sucks. I just don't think it would work. And like tango said it would make you the head of an operation. You know what happens once you turn source.

 

[shamrockbear1]

I understand but I think an initial try would be a good start and I would not be a public source it would be private for a handful of guys ... I wouldn't want to go source its a hassle... Well I'll tell you what I'm sending a sample in for testing when I get the results I'll post it.. I only want 3-5 guys that's it not interested in open selling to public. So if your interested please pm me.. Ill get the sample out next week it would be a work in progress.. At least I'm upfront about stuff I didn't pull that hometown powder bs. And he's still on this board..

 

[shamrockbear1]

 

[GigaloRob]

Let's just say this works out and you have 5 people paying you. Explain to me how you stop at 5 people and not expand to make yourself way more money? Perhaps you are the only guy on the planet that is not interested in making more money. Your issues will be the same as any other source that pops up here. Personally your pitch is almost more insulting then it is helpful. Other people may not be as blunt as i am but you are clearly trying to tap dance around what is expected of anyone that wants to source here.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Let's just say this works out and you have 5 people paying you. Explain to me how you stop at 5 people and not expand to make yourself way more money? Perhaps you are the only guy on the planet that is not interested in making more money. Your issues will be the same as any other source that pops up here. Personally your pitch is almost more insulting then it is helpful. Other people may not be as blunt as i am but you are clearly trying to tap dance around what is expected of anyone that wants to source here.

it's like the dude who sells weed to his roomates to spoke for free..."I'm not a dealer". No you just pool money and use the buying power to further your own financial gain. Besides, If I wanted to fund a startup and take on all the headaches and risk of getting the moving parts in place, I'd do it myself. I gladly pay someone else to deal with that bs so I don't have to, the only thing more valuable to me then my ends right now is my time...

 

[shamrockbear1]

I have a real job and a life if its 5 people then that's it I don't want to expand I like my freedom. Not looking to be a source just asking if 5 people were interested nothing more and backed by testing there no source that does that period. Im just looking for a few people and I DONT want to source you have the have a full time person just answer emails and dealing with customers I have a family that's my priority . I thought this would be a great way to ensure quality gear for those interested honestly the problem is what the hell am I going yo do with a half a kilo of raw powder I could never use it and I only a few people in real life that juice so I can't sell it all even if I tried so I would prefer to find a few guys that would like 10-20 vials of each product tested I think that pretty reasonable $400 for ten vial of properly dosed gear is amazing and results will be better than any ugl so not sure how I'm making out I just want to get the gear I want properly dosed and have guys split the cost. No gimmicks here I'm just being 100% legit...
With that said it costs money to this project really I make maybe like 5 bucks a vial the problem is when you get raws and I pay say $100 for ten grams and its dosed at 56% then I have to double the raws and that costs money period.
Personally all anyone has on the line would be $400 dollars for ten vials of great gear I think that's fair, ultimately we all get great dosed gear and we know the compounds that's what I want .. Look how many chumps sent money to htp, getm and all the sources that outright scammed them ... At least you know where I'll be able right here a meso I'm not going anywhere ...
I get it I may be a little abrassive I think I just don't translate well online lol. But I have never bullshit anyone once. If I said I had a source for bluetops I responded to the PM and had nothing to gain giving someone a good source. I believe in karma..

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

I'm not personally attacking you man, seems like you are just throwing out a "utopian hypothetical". But...I'm just pointing out some flaws in the theory not only for your consideration but other members as well. Although you seem like your heart may be in the right place, for all we know this could be the most sly attempt yet to pull in a large influx of members' cash while attempting to bypass the SCoC. I think unless you deal with individuals you have real world relationships with, you will need to start a thread and comply with the SCoC if you plan to explore this venture further here. I think the only reason guys haven't jumped on you yet is simply because the whole idea just seems so half-baked IMO

 

[newtoketo]

I'm not too familiar with the law but isn't doing it for one the same as doing for many?
Cuz you can still possibly be at a risk I think.

 

[shamrockbear1]

 

[shamrockbear1]

Sorry laundry machine in the pic...
So there you go now you have pics? What else can I answer.?

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

sooooo is this your attempt at the SCoC? better clear your schedule for the next 48-72 hours

 

[shamrockbear1]

I'm not too familiar with the law but isn't doing it for one the same as doing for many?
Cuz you can still possibly be at a risk I think.

Well I believe if I keep it small among 5 or so people they LE won't bother us at all.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Well I believe if I keep it small among 5 or so people they LE won't bother us at all.

You plan on shipping correct? The use of the USPS in commission of a crime is something that they kinda frown on

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Well IMO and experience these guys are semi shaddy i ordered some powders from a tradekey source well reviewed so I found that the injectable powders were just OK and the oral were not good.. Also the generic GH was decent and they had some legit hyges with serial numbers that checked out. Most sellers are resellers and this company told me as well they go to the factory they have a deal with and get stuff most of the injectable stuff I believe is substituted with test cyp. Because I ordered test e. Which is gooey in raw form and magically they were out.. The tren looked light yellow and should of been much darker probably cut with something so I spent a few thousand and feel honestly that these guys are shaddy when they can be they have no loyalty and don't care once they get your money. So honestly I bought from a source in this this board that had pharma gear with packaging and everything its international but you know exactly what your getting no need to worry I got pharma anavar and no need to question is it and as you know 99% of the UGLs get there powder from same places we can so either you put blind faith in the ugl or stop being a cheap ass and pay more for pharma gear...

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