STOP INTERFERING WITH SOURCES BUSINESS

[bigMoJo]

I don't get that impression.
I have seen the gentleman on various source threads, so a shill, I don't think.

@dontletheoldmanin you may have gotten good customer service, as you say, but tbf qsc were kind of late to announce the shortage situation, no?
Other sources stopped shipping and alerted members way earlier.

I'm with you Iris.
That's why I stopped a hair short of actually calling him a shill.

 

[iris]

If you know what to look for it takes a few minutes to find multiple legal API suppliers in China for various AAS. Tren, no. LoL.


I'd start here:

How to Find a Reputable Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient (API) Supplier: A Comprehensive Guide

In the ever-evolving pharmaceutical industry, finding a reliable Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient (API) supplier is crucial for the success of your business. Whether you’re a pharmaceutical…

www.drugpatentwatch.com

Know Your Bulks and Excipients Suppliers

FDA has identified several issues over the past few years related to repackers of bulk drug substances, also called active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs), used to compound drugs. The agency urges compounders to know your bulks supplier and know if they are testing the drugs before you purchase bu

www.fda.gov

Looking For Compounding Pharmacy API Suppliers? 5 Things You Need To Know - LGM Pharma

According to the U.S. GAO, compounded drugs account for about 1-3% of all U.S. prescriptions. Compounding pharmacies are a vital part of the overall

lgmpharma.com

Drug Master Files (DMFs)

Info helps to master FDA’s list of Drug Master Files (DMFs) and info on submission of DMFs to agency.

www.fda.gov

When I read that reply, I did have a Mr Google and I did find a few things.
But I thought maybe I was looking at the wrong thing and so didn't want to say anything stupid.
Preferred asking Master Readalot.
I always assume I do the wrong thing, lol.
Thank you for the reply and sorry I bothered you.

To sum up, what Tracy said is incorrect.
Nevermind.
X

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

When QSC started here they initially claimed to be an actual manufacturer of raws. I wonder what happened there. People forget what these sources claim at various times when they’re on this forum.

They all lie, thats why we assume they are full of shit and test their products.

 

[readalot]

When I read that reply, I did have a Mr Google and I did find a few things.
But I thought maybe I was looking at the wrong thing and so didn't want to say anything stupid.
Preferred asking Master Readalot.
I always assume I do the wrong thing, lol.
Thank you for the reply and sorry I bothered you.

To sum up, what Tracy said is incorrect.
Nevermind.
X

Found some tren* too LOL!
* "vet drug"

http://www.junyepharm.com/wap_index_en.html

Behold the clandestine goodness /s.

Testosterone Enanthate API Manufacturers | Suppliers | Drug Master Files (DMF) | CEP | Pharmacompass.com

List of all Manufacturers, Suppliers & Exporters of Testosterone Enanthate API listed on PharmaCompass with details of regulatory filings

www.pharmacompass.com

 

[readalot]

I always assume I do the wrong thing, lol.

I do too. That usually means you are on the right track haha.

 

[iris]

I'm with you Iris.
That's why I stopped a hair short of actually calling him a shill.

Mojo, you were not here at the time, I don't think, but Declan was saying to Ghoul Tracy is not Chinese.
This is a good thread for speculation, so I am putting it right here, lol.
Idk why, right now I feel like I want to agree...
I get the Western vibe. from Tracy.
You know Tracy is going to land on me with a veeeeeery long post in Pin Yin, lol

 

[PaintDrinker]

WTF are talking about? He's been a member 6 days longer than you!

You're on a slippery slope... that's possibly shill behavior.

Shill behavior a.k.a. ball sucking.

Don't go down that slope... there's no coming back.

Roasted

 

[Zebedee]

I don't get that impression.
I have seen the gentleman on various source threads, so a shill, I don't think.

He isn’t & he has no hidden agenda here.

Like he said, he’s been here before & he predates QSC, Generation GLP & the Reddit retards that are just here to buy cheap drugs & rim their chosen source’s rusty starfish.

 

[Zebedee]

Mojo, you were not here at the time, I don't think, but Declan was saying to Ghoul Tracy is not Chinese.
This is a good thread for speculation, so I am putting it right here, lol.
Idk why, right now I feel like I want to agree...
I get the Western vibe. from Tracy.
You know Tracy is going to land on me with a veeeeeery long post in Pin Yin, lol

Well, Tracy first appeared on Meso FR 3 years ago, where IIRC you have to post in French ….

Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. ON EST LÀ!

Then there’s him making a thread about paying a visit to Jano’s office / lab - that’s a bloody long trip from China.

I would put money on him being an ethnic-Chinese Frenchman, an existing & active member on Meso FR, who after quite a few other members posted about buying from QSC via B2B sites, saw a golden opportunity to launch himself as a rep there because unlike 99.999% of Meso FR members, he spoke Chinese.

I’d hazard a guess that if you has the time & inclination to trawl through Meso FR, you’d likely be able to work out his original Meso FR username.

I could be wrong of course ….

As for Ghougle-Fu not knowing something & having to be told …. b-b-but he’s The Oracle ….

 

[iris]

Well, Tracy first appeared on Meso FR 3 years ago, where IIRC you have to post in French ….

Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. ON EST LÀ!

Then there’s him making a thread about paying a visit to Jano’s office / lab - that’s a bloody long trip from China.

I would put money on him being an ethnic-Chinese Frenchman, an existing & active member on Meso FR, who after quite a few other members posted about buying from QSC via B2B sites, saw a golden opportunity to launch himself as a rep there because unlike 99.999% of Meso FR members, he spoke Chinese.

I’d hazard a guess that if you has the time & inclination to trawl through Meso FR, you’d likely be able to work out his original Meso FR username.

I could be wrong of course ….

As for Ghougle-Fu not knowing something & having to be told …. b-b-but he’s The Oracle ….

DROP ME OUT

ZEEEEEEEEEEEEB!!!!!!

I still cannot believe you read my rubbish (I am ashmed, I'll go hide somewhere), lol.

First of all, sorry I misread your previous reply to me, I did get it eventually; idiot, lol. Thanks for that and for clarifying.

You sweet little crumpet.

Then, this conjecture of yours is so brilliant and makes a lot of sense.
I always thought that, reading Tracy's replies to members and especially his sense of humour, he must be a lot closer (culturally) than he wants us to believe.

I had no idea about his French Meso back story.

Jesus, Zeb, I bet you nailed it.
It's an odd coincidence that the only two people I have come across who spoke Chinese super fluently where French (but not of Chinese extraction, very Caucasian).

Total class act, as always, Sir.
And now that you busted him, Tracy is going to hate you even more.
And he can't even tell you to go eat dog poo, because you were the one that told him so, in the first place.
The OG.
We ❤ you, Zeb

X

 

[Millard]

stop addressing other consumer complaints
stop asking to pay more money (AKA ITS SO CHEAP WOO)
stop giving them reasons to raise the prices
stop trying to negotiate
stop giving them business "ideas"
stop groveling for simply giving you the product you paid for
stop forming para-social relationships
stop being a coward

buy the gear, complain or STFU

many of you are very new to gear and also have no idea how business works.
So sheltered, that you believe everything in the world is determined by a faceless corporate entity and the employees just make hourly wages and don't care what price their employer sets it at.

Do you go to businesses and tell them that you would gladly pay more just because its cheaper than somewhere else?
If someone has a complaint with their dish at a restaurant, do you chime in and defend the chef?

I've always found this obsequious, sycophantic behavior with sources to be quite weird. (It seems many of you have enjoyed my use of these adjectives.)

You would think they would be alt accounts of sources or outright shills. And often they are reported as such. Believe me, I've looked very closely over the years, using the tools at my disposal, to find such a connection. But rarely are they actually alt accounts or shills.

They are inevitably mostly just customers. It's bizarre how susceptible so many people on AAS-related forums are to the effects of parasocial interactions with those who manage the source accounts. They seem to work well to establish strong brand loyalty. Sources exploit this.

And apparently, it works particularly well when consumers think they are interacting with a real live female. Even when confronted with the high probability that the female is really a male masquerading as a woman, they strongly resist any such thoughts because it would inflict such damage to their gratifying parasocial relationships. So it's no wonder it's one of a few reasons sources like to use female names.

Sadly, the loyalty of such consumers/members is tied to the source brand - and not the community.

Hopefully, at some point in time, there will be some self-awareness of the fact that they are being manipulation via the parasocial relationships on the forum.

 

[Millard]

You must be a young lad, to need half a century worth of drugs.

Mind you, lots of them like you.

And not a single one a reseller.
Never.

Or someone who homebrews and sells truckloads of stuff.
Bonified drug dealers, they are not.
Especially the ones that come with some lacrimose story attached to it.
Just for personal use, of course.
A new hobby, and that's it.

There is this interesting word I have learnt recently: sadfishing.

It’s one of those things you don’t see discussed much, but a substantial proportion of the active member base here are reselling, be it local IRL or via other platforms. It’s part & parcel of forum culture & always has been.

As for the hypocrisy you mention - get used to it mate. In my experience of around 25 years on forums, the more established a member is, the more likely they’ll have fingers in pies & agendas, & the more likely they are to throw stones from their glass house.

This is no doubt true. It's difficult to place an exact number of the proportion of active members who are participating, at some level, in AAS distribution, unbeknownst to (most) everyone else.

The obvious ones, who publicly acknowledge doing this, are identified as such.

But then there are those who resell extras offline to cover their costs. Those who homebrew and sell locally offline. And there are those who secretly source to other forum members behind the scenes (with other members disappointingly conspiring to keep their secret).

This is important and relevant because the public-facing interactions (e.g. source criticism, feedback, and defending of sources) are accompanied by potentially significant conflicts of interests. It really could use a little asterisk to disclaim.

Some source threads probably have much higher number of secret resellers participating. For example, reseller clientele is probably a much larger percentage of the customer base for raws sources.

You can't always take everything at face value. It's not always what it seems.

 

[readalot]

I've always found this obsequious, sycophantic behavior with sources to be quite weird. (It seems many of you have enjoyed my use of these adjectives.)

You would think they would be alt accounts of sources our outright shills. And often they are reported as such. Believe me, I've looked very closely over the years, using the tools at my disposal, to find such a connection. But rarely are they actually alt accounts or shills.

They are inevitably mostly just customers. It's bizarre how susceptible so many people on AAS-related forums are to the effects of parasocial interactions with those who manage the source accounts. They seem to work well to establish strong brand loyalty. Sources exploit this.

And apparently, it works particular well when consumers think they are interacting with a real live female. Even when confronted with the high probability that the female is really a male masquerading as a woman, they strongly resist any such thoughts because it would inflict such damage to their gratifying parasocial relationships. So it's no wonder it's one of a few reasons sources like to use female names.

Sadly, the loyalty of such consumers/members is tied to the source brand - and not the community.

Hopefully, at some point in time, there will be some self-awareness of the fact that they are being manipulation via the parasocial relationships on the forum.

Always use the quote term when referring to these "females". For example, "Tracy".

Keeps it at the forefront.

Thank you Millard.

 

[dontletheoldmanin]

Well I guess we can change Tracy's name to Dick..
Jajaja

 

[readalot]

Well I guess we can change Tracy's name to Dick..
Jajaja

Good idea. I will do that.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

you are a chinese shill and why you are no longer ''well known''

If you look at a lot of the recent "well known" you realize AI makes a lot of mistakes. Luckily, next to "well known" there are also badges for the amount of time they have been a member. From what I have seen, those that have the most relevant information to share speak less, have been a member for significantly longer, and their words are more impactful and meaningful. On the other hand, you have keyboard warriors who are "well known", have relatively little time here, thousands and thousands of posts and provide little to no benefit to anyone but their own egos. IGNORE is a function that works relatively well for theses keyboard warriors, but you still have to deal with their incessant use of thumbs up and down.

Then you have people like Readalot and Ghoul who do actually have the ability to provide relevant information at times, but their egos and/or belief that everyone must comply or do what THEY want becomes abusive (not so much with Ghoul). I would so much want to view Readalot in a positive light, but the message got lost long ago when he lost his shit. If he didn't feel the need to fight EVERY battle, he would likely be successful at winning the war. I would definitely be willing to help him fight it.

Instead, here I am calling him Bubbleboy and unfortunately stooping to level of those PITA bunch of "well known" members who provide zero benefit to this forum.

I am embarrassed by my childish behavior and I truly hope I can go back to making a positive, albeit small, contribution to what these forums SHOULD be.

 

[readalot]

and btw, I should add if you ever want to talk just hit me up. For a person your age to come at someone like you do makes me a little sad. I remember seeing your pics and then I looked at them again just now.

You could easily be my neighbor or coworker. We never know what people got going on and I get that. Have you ever tried an anger management group class or even meditation? I've been there.

It really helps to humanize people. It's not good to carry so much negative emotion like that as we get older. Bad for the heart and you appear to be running decent amounts of AAS. Take care of yourself. And if you aren't comfortable talking out here PM anytime.

I am sorry i didn't say this earlier.

Sincerely.

And yes I am guilty as well going after Phenom... when I could have taken the high road. I'm no better.

Shouldn't let the constant harassment bug me if I am going to stick my neck out there.

 

[readalot]

And yes, the invitation stands HTTAL.

 

[iris]

And yes I am guilty as well going after Phenom... when I could have taken the high road. I'm no better.

Shouldn't let the constant harassment bug me if I am going to stick my neck out there.

To be fair, you only responded and in a way that was even too elevated for what was coming your way.
You were hounded across threads by various individuals, with the sole purpose of insulting you.
Is there not a point when one may lose patience?
Can one not be in the mood to deal with such disrespect in a "diplomatic" manner, when those people are everything but?
What I still feel guilty about is that you also intervened in my defence, which only brought more aggression towards you, from said individuals.

Yet, here you are being so gracious and humble about it.
The only thing that was wrong was your ban, as far as I am concerned.
You are allowed to defend yourself, you were not the one who created the situation.
It's just a shame it happened in the "wrong" forum.
That' s all.

 

[readalot]

To be fair, you only responded and in a way that was even too elevated for what was coming your way.
You were hounded across threads by various individuals, with the sole purpose of insulting you.
Is there not a point when one may lose patience?
Can one not be in the mood to deal with such disrespect in a "diplomatic" manner, when those people are everything but?
What I still feel guilty about is that you also intervened in my defence, which only brought more aggression towards you, from said individuals.

Yet, here you are being so gracious and humble about it.
The only thing that was wrong was your ban, as far as I am concerned.
You are allowed to defend yourself, you were not the one who created the situation.
It's just a shame it happened in the "wrong" forum.
That' s all.

If HTTAL wants to shake hands, I'll happily do it. He makes some good points. .

I respect and appreciate your perspective as always. I put all of this on myself. It ain't going to be a cake walk.

Thanks Iris.