Growth from 18iu GH worth the price?

[adrenalytic]

Enjoythements is a troll that gets butthurt too easily. Really showing his true colors in this thread. Yes some people take a shitload of AAS/GH. But the best never take as much as the rest bc their genetics don't require it. This community would be better without him and his sensitive feelings. The fact he can't show his physique but wants to be an armchair critic about your butt speaks volumes to his character and sad life. Someone that resorts to attacking others and bringing them down during an argument completely negates their argument and shows they don't really have a clue or proof of what they're talking about

Rock on brother. You look great. Putting 99% of this board to shame with that physique

Yanno, I was gonna say something but this here encapsulates it all in a much nicer manner than I would have taken so I'll just repost it.

It's adorable when soft little fatties try to tell jacked guys how to be jacked.

Although im in Canada

This explains why you're so tolerant of that troll xD Ignore that shit you look amazing bro. Do you have a log somewhere? I'd follow that shit.

 

[william23kelly]

Yanno, I was gonna say something but this here encapsulates it all in a much nicer manner than I would have taken so I'll just repost it.

It's adorable when soft little fatties try to tell jacked guys how to be jacked.



This explains why you're so tolerant of that troll xD Ignore that shit you look amazing bro. Do you have a log somewhere? I'd follow that shit.

Lmao thanks man. I do have a log here from my prep but I havent updated it since

Thread 'Wills Prep Log - First competition - Fouad Abiads Championships May 31st'

Apr 30, 2025

Sup Fellas.

I've been dieting for the last 6 weeks to compete in a bodybuilding show for my first time. I figured I would start logging my progress here for anyone whos interested.

I've never worked with a coach yet but just paired up with an IFBB open pro yesterday to start working together so tomorrow will be day 1 of the new plan I receive.

My starting weight was 229lbs fasted in the morning. It is now 211lbs fasted as of this morning. Im going to compete in 4.5 weeks here in Canada at Fouad Abiads amateur show. There is a pro qualifier the next weekend from that too in Toronto...

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[juicebro]

show me those soggy glutes

Bro we all know what you look like. You were asked to post a picture...anything. You didn't. That says it all. Pathetic.

 

[Enjoythements]

Bro we all know what you look like. You were asked to post a picture...anything. You didn't. That says it all. Pathetic.

ya'll got your feelings hurt, not my problem you are neurodivergent. Like I said it's out in the open lmao....................... I ain't about to dox or post shit even if I was a 500pound piece if lard my point still stands you don't have to be a mathematician to know 1+1=2

Go watch some day in life or podcasts hahahahhahaha its the same spiel over and over again once someone makes a signifcant leap of progress and get asked what did you do the answer is always lower the drugs hahahahahahahhaha fuuuuuuuck next time go even lower and use estrogen you make even more progres!

 

[william23kelly]

Lol funny enough this was just uploaded by Larry Wheels. This massive russian bb claims to take 1g Test 1.5 Primo and 20iu GH per day. Maybe I do need to start cranking GH. He even states in the video he experimented with 100iu per day but saw no more benefits than 20iu.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZruYI0UOc

 

[mrsloppyboo]

Lol funny enough this was just uploaded by Larry Wheels. This massive russian bb claims to take 1g Test 1.5 Primo and 20iu GH per day. Maybe I do need to start cranking GH. He even states in the video he experimented with 100iu per day but saw no more benefits than 20iu.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZruYI0UOc

Holy moly 100iu is ridiculous. I’ve heard some pretty crazy things about Russian guys. Supposedly there are rumors that Andrew Smaev runs in the 8g territory and around 20iu GH daily. No idea if that’s true and no idea the source, just interesting to hear about different cultures approaches to AAS. The guys in the Middle East seem to be pretty aggressive with it as well compared to USA guys

 

[fw190jd]

Ten weeks won't make a difference if you take 10 or 18 i.u. You need to do this for years to build enough muscle to compete in open.

I don't know your level, but to put on 10 kg of stage weight requires at least three years of doing everything under the sun: eating properly, taking enough AAS, taking enough GH, and for a sufficient amount of time. And all that requires a lot of money.

At some point, you will need a coach, and that costs a lot also.

I don't know where you live and how expensive things are there, but you need at least 1k just to fuel this. If you don't have this money month in and month out, it can't be done. And I'm talking about getting food from the cheapest places, looking for discounts, buying AAS at China prices, and so on.
Also you need a job that isn't too taxing. Not many bodybuilders work in construction for example.

No wonder pro bodybuilders are broke, doing live cam or gay4pay things to finance this obsession that leads nowhere, just to fuel their narcissistic ego.

But yeah, taking more of whatever will help if the side effects don't make you too sick to follow your diet and program. Bodybuilding isn't healthy, and it isn't cheap. It's a sport where everything is taken to the extreme, no matter the outcome it will have on your future health. That's true for every professional sport, though.

everything about the sport is expensive as I'm just coming to learn the money just keeps adding up between the drugs the coach the food the supplements it's ridiculous.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

everything about the sport is expensive as I'm just coming to learn the money just keeps adding up between the drugs the coach the food the supplements it's ridiculous.

That’s why no social life lmao. Too expensive. Not gonna let my friends impact my recovery ability anyways

 

[cousinmuscles]

show me those soggy glutes

still not a single picture from this guy

not that I have posted pictures on the forum, but I sure as hell wouldn't say something demeaning to someone who is obviously a good bodybuilder who ACTUALLY COMPETES... and try to discredit their knowledge on that basis with no pictures myself lol

 

[Astartes]

"you have to eat" is overemphasized to the point where people get fat instead

^This is correct

 

[Astartes]

Brother this is the furthest thing from true. I always warn guys when they read a comment like this on the internet to ask themsleves, what does this user posting look like themselves? You certainly are not a bodybuilder.

"Make sure you eat adequate amount of calories, but for most people its no problem and "you have to eat" is overemphasized to the point where people get fat instead"

^This is hysterical. Guys will stay small with this mentality.
The easiest thing in the world to do is blast peds. The hardest part is to eat 6k calories a day 300g protein day after day month after month and train at the level it takes to grow to pro size. There is a reason few make it to the top.

This is incorrect. 300 gr of protein is doable on <3000 calories. 99% of guys here will NEVER be bodybuilders and talking like they will or that we have expectation that is their goal is just a farce.

Hence prior posters comment.

Yes. 8 of 10 guys here over eat. Their diet sucks, isn’t clean, and they pump calories in. They get fat protein guts (visceral fat) instead of lean and powerful.

 

[BatmanVAR]

Good point. Although im in Canada, I recall recently a local pro bodybuilder was posting on his story dumbfounded how he eats clean year round here and experiences digestion issues yet when he travelled somewhere ( i forget where ) and ate less strict his digestion actually improved.

I have several friends here in america that have to eat gluten free because gluten makes them really sick. But whenever they go to Europe they can bash bread all day without issue. It's because our government allows poisons to be sprayed on our food but Europe does not.

 

[Ghoul]

You know what actually, I admit defeat.
I am going to order a fuck ton of GH today and start blasting 18iu. Will up my gear to 5grams. I'll shout you fellas out from the Olympia stage next year

 

[cousinmuscles]

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Why does it say 0BPM though, do you mean he will die and go to heaven?

 

[Slowww]

Why does it say 0BPM though, do you mean he will die and go to heaven?

Naw hes just chilling, keeping on the supplements so he has very low resting heart rate cus he is so healthy. His wife probably ain’t in the room so his blood pressure went down a lot too

 

[lilhawk]

I haven't run it that high personally but plenty of pros don't either. It's probably more based on your response, genetics, and how much it effects your igf1 levels.

Go to proM and look at Beef Stu's log. He's always run 10iu. It's even another nickname. 10iu Stu.

Martin fitzwater just had that interview with Nyle where he said he never goes over 6iu.

Both of them are massive

Fitzwater is full of shit too.

 

[lilhawk]

How bad would running 18iu GH be for my longevity in the sport? I was always lead to believe when it comes to growing to the size of an open pro, more growth hormone is always better

More of everything is better, but the rule is run as much GH as you can afford, and a fuck ton of insulin with it.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

More of everything is better, but the rule is run as much GH as you can afford, and a fuck ton of insulin with it.

Is the general consensus with gear is to grow the much as possible run as much as you can tolerate? Or is that just with GH?

 

[null88]

Lol funny enough this was just uploaded by Larry Wheels. This massive russian bb claims to take 1g Test 1.5 Primo and 20iu GH per day. Maybe I do need to start cranking GH. He even states in the video he experimented with 100iu per day but saw no more benefits than 20iu.

I feel like i've seen countless of these Russian mutant bodybuilders over the years that just end up fizzling away

 

[Slowww]

sloppyboo Im a bit confused though.

Is the general consensus with gear is to grow the much as possible run as much as you can tolerate? Or is that just with GH?

this is not the general consensus on either LOL certainly not AAS. Some say this about GH