Harm reduction in the Steroid Underground subforum - this is NOT a source forum

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Some people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the MESO Steroid Underground operates. This is NOT a source forum.

The putative goal of a source forum is to present only those sources who are "good to go". This is one approach to harm reduction involving product acquisition. And this is the model that practically every AAS-related forum has followed.

But unlike other forums, MESO admins do not pick and choose who is allowed to participate and who is not allowed to participate. Nor do MESO mods decide. Nor does a small group of members decide either.

This is because we have seen over and over again how this ends up silencing voices. Members are discouraged and often banned for criticizing "approved sources". Similarly, members who want to share positive experiences about sources that have not been approved by the forum are restricted as well. The truth quickly becomes a casualty of this approach.

The manner in which sources are approved on these forums may not accurately reflect the actual risks associated with those sources. This may happen for many reasons and often it is due to pay-to-play schemes, freebies, and other benefits or agendas that may benefit admins, mods, etc.

So, MESO has tried a different approach...

The sources you see on MESO represent a cross-section of what an AAS user might find on the Internet. The presence of a source on the forum has NEVER represented an acceptance, approval, or endorsement of any kind of a source's products and/or business practices.

There is no perfect source. There is no such thing as “good to go” on MESO. There are positive and negatives for each and every source – and these positives and negatives are evaluated differently by each and every member.

The goal of each source thread is to hold EVERY source accountable. As such everyone is allowed to participate in the Steroid Underground. Customers are free to post positive and negative reviews; positive and negative lab test reports; criticisms of business practices; complaints of customer service; legal risks and consequences, etc. Sources are allowed to participate and respond to criticisms/complaints/problems -- and more importantly, their responses or lack of action are part of the permanent record for other members to evaluate.

This approach recognizes that harm reduction involves every aspect of anabolic steroid use. Harm reduction is not limited to the quality and safety of AAS products and management of side effects but is also relevant at every step of product acquisition.
 
Some people have a fundamental misunderstand of how the MESO Steroid Underground operates. This is NOT a source forum.

The putative goal of a source forum is to present only those sources who are "good to go". This is one approach to harm reduction involving product acquisition. And this is the model that practically every AAS-related forum has followed.

But unlike other forums, MESO admins do not pick and choose who is allowed to participate and who is not allowed to participate. Nor do MESO mods decide. Nor does a small group of members decide either.

This is because we have seen over and over again how this ends up silencing voices. Members are discouraged and often banned for criticizing "approved sources". Similarly, members who want to share positive experiences about sources that have not been approved by the forum are restricted as well. The truth quickly becomes a casualty of this approach.

The manner in which sources are approved on these forums may not accurately reflect the actual risks associated with those sources. This may happen for many reasons and often it is due to pay-to-play schemes, freebies, and other benefits or agendas that may benefit admins, mods, etc.

So, MESO has tried a different approach...

The sources you see on MESO represent a cross-section of what an AAS user might find on the Internet. The presence of a source on the forum has NEVER represented an acceptance, approval, or endorsement of any kind of a source's products and/or business practices.

There is no perfect source. There is no such thing as “good to go” on MESO. There are positive and negatives for each and every source – and these positive and negatives are evaluated differently by each and every member.

The goal of each source thread is to hold EVERY source accountable. As such everyone is allowed to participate in the Steroid Underground. Customers are free to post positive and negative reviews; positive and negative lab test reports; criticisms of business practices; complaints of customer service; legal risks and consequences, etc. Sources are allowed to participate and respond to criticisms/complaints/problems -- and more importantly, their responses or lack of action are part of the permanent record for other members to evaluate.

This approach recognizes that harm reduction involves every aspect of anabolic steroid use. Harm reduction is not limited to the quality and safety of AAS products and management of side effects but is also relevant at every step of product acquisition.
Good reminder, thanks Millard
 
Some people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the MESO Steroid Underground operates. This is NOT a source forum.

The putative goal of a source forum is to present only those sources who are "good to go". This is one approach to harm reduction involving product acquisition. And this is the model that practically every AAS-related forum has followed.

But unlike other forums, MESO admins do not pick and choose who is allowed to participate and who is not allowed to participate. Nor do MESO mods decide. Nor does a small group of members decide either.

This is because we have seen over and over again how this ends up silencing voices. Members are discouraged and often banned for criticizing "approved sources". Similarly, members who want to share positive experiences about sources that have not been approved by the forum are restricted as well. The truth quickly becomes a casualty of this approach.

The manner in which sources are approved on these forums may not accurately reflect the actual risks associated with those sources. This may happen for many reasons and often it is due to pay-to-play schemes, freebies, and other benefits or agendas that may benefit admins, mods, etc.

So, MESO has tried a different approach...

The sources you see on MESO represent a cross-section of what an AAS user might find on the Internet. The presence of a source on the forum has NEVER represented an acceptance, approval, or endorsement of any kind of a source's products and/or business practices.

There is no perfect source. There is no such thing as “good to go” on MESO. There are positive and negatives for each and every source – and these positives and negatives are evaluated differently by each and every member.

The goal of each source thread is to hold EVERY source accountable. As such everyone is allowed to participate in the Steroid Underground. Customers are free to post positive and negative reviews; positive and negative lab test reports; criticisms of business practices; complaints of customer service; legal risks and consequences, etc. Sources are allowed to participate and respond to criticisms/complaints/problems -- and more importantly, their responses or lack of action are part of the permanent record for other members to evaluate.

This approach recognizes that harm reduction involves every aspect of anabolic steroid use. Harm reduction is not limited to the quality and safety of AAS products and management of side effects but is also relevant at every step of product acquisition.
Finally nice to see this and have this put out there so older members are reminded and new members understand, really every new member should read this...

Good read, well wrote Millard respect
 
This is why Meso is the best aas forum out there...
I think you need to head back over to UGBB so you can figure out how to become a real man before anyone with some dignity will welcome you back here. You contribute nothing, not even scientific based research, besides the fact that you have sex with many women at 44 years old like you are a bitch made high schooler. You Subq all your injections like a punk, you sexualize females and treat them as subordinates, you come across as a straight up goof, and have yet to ever mention any sort of diet or program you follow. Where’s this pre-cut pic or did you fail that week ass attempt of trying to be somebody in this world? Rather than having all these boyfriends you consider your friends on MESO. Almost everyone on UGBB hates you and I can say besides your fanboys here I’m going to say about 75% of members wish you would fuck off with your nonsense posts faggot. Rest In Piss Fuck Boy.
 
I think you need to head back over to UGBB so you can figure out how to become a real man before anyone with some dignity will welcome you back here. You contribute nothing, not even scientific based research, besides the fact that you have sex with many women at 44 years old like you are a bitch made high schooler. You Subq all your injections like a punk, you sexualize females and treat them as subordinates, you come across as a straight up goof, and have yet to ever mention any sort of diet or program you follow. Where’s this pre-cut pic or did you fail that week ass attempt of trying to be somebody in this world? Rather than having all these boyfriends you consider your friends on MESO. Almost everyone on UGBB hates you and I can say besides your fanboys here I’m going to say about 75% of members wish you would fuck off with your nonsense posts faggot. Rest In Piss Fuck Boy.
Hmm. Is our estrogen a little high son hahaha...

What do you want to know? Diet? Training program? Current cycle? I'm pretty sure I've made countless posts about those here. Just do a search.

I don't need to have the approval of anyone in this world brotha. And you shouldn't seek that either. Be your own man and forge your.own path.

Sure, I have some old fashioned views about women. I don't view women as equals to men. Should I feel sorry for that? It's a point of view, and you are free to disagree with it. If you want to be one of those soy boy PC woke feminists, who am I to stop you? Do you man.

Sometimes I think if you guys got laid more, you would be more relaxed, happier. Maybe that's why I feel so good about life in general. I'm out doing manly shit, and I'm just a happy guy. If I can help any guy here be happier and more confident, I'll feel like I've done something good. Cheers.
 
Steady now, guys. We’re all augmented and we deal with it differently, I’m working on not being an asshole, so let’s just all calm down and remember why we’re here.
 
Steady now, guys. We’re all augmented and we deal with it differently, I’m working on not being an asshole, so let’s just all calm down and remember why we’re here.
I agree! I've been really attacked lately haha. Sometimes I think it's the gang mentality, where people read the crowd and then go along with it. I think it's better to just have friendly disagreements and not go overboard in insulting one another. We can all learn from each other.
 
Why not open a free source page? No payment required or any sort of fuckin bribe/sponsorship! Open 3d like this here where anyone can post their opinion/reviews! It's a mess that source topic are shuffled between nonsense 3d and bullshit ones. Just to organize stuff and render everything smooth!
 
I agree! I've been really attacked lately haha. Sometimes I think it's the gang mentality, where people read the crowd and then go along with it. I think it's better to just have friendly disagreements and not go overboard in insulting one another. We can all learn from each other.
How does one join this "Gang"?
 
Why not open a free source page? No payment required or any sort of fuckin bribe/sponsorship! Open 3d like this here where anyone can post their opinion/reviews! It's a mess that source topic are shuffled between nonsense 3d and bullshit ones. Just to organize stuff and render everything smooth!
What does 3d mean in this context? I only know about movies.
 
Case in point. Do you ever see Cridi887 fly off the handle and start insulting random strangers here on the boards? Not really. He's got an active sex life and it seems like he's just a laid back, relaxed happy dude.
 
Case in point. Do you ever see Cridi887 fly off the handle and start insulting random strangers here on the boards? Not really. He's got an active sex life and it seems like he's just a laid back, relaxed happy dude.
Unfortunately I have gotten a little mad at certain people for stupid shit. Probably went a little overboard, in winding down off cycle now and just waiting for my body to normalize lol
 
No payment required to participate in the MESO forum - like ever.
Yes, that's what I am saying. One way or another the source post here so I don't see why don't open a section only with source. Better for categorizing and everything but I understand too that this goes far away from the real meaning of meso
 
Yes, that's what I am saying. One way or another the source post here so I don't see why don't open a section only with source. Better for categorizing and everything but I understand too that this goes far away from the real meaning of meso
I'm not sure I understand. That is the very purpose of the "Steroid Underground" subforum.
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