Has anyone ever tried primo or masteron alone?

[Reno]

Has ever anyone tried primo or masteron alone? without test. if someone has done it, i wont his experience. i know everyone says , test is base blah blah blah, but iam asking for someone that did a stand alone cycle

 

[Iron Frenchie]

Has ever anyone tried primo or masteron alone? without test. if someone has done it, i wont his experience. i know everyone says , test is base blah blah blah, but iam asking for someone that did a stand alone cycle

I don’t know anybody that has. I’ve ran solo nandrolone no test. But both mast and primo do not convert to E2. You should run something that aromatizes. No E2 no gains.

 

[Seattle23]

i know everyone says , test is base blah blah blah, but iam asking for someone that did a stand alone cycle

Head over to isarms or Evo, I'm sure you'll find some retards that can answer your question. GL

 

[Demondosage]

I never have personally because I never used primo till after TRT, but an old school cycle that is supposed to absolutely kick ass and is testless is 1,000 iu per week hcg and 1000mg per wk primo x 12 wks

 

[Reno]

Had a conversation with a trt doctor and for healing purpose said to me that you can run primo alone because the supress will not be so enormous but you can add proviron alongside to have more free test available. This should work. I use test as base but never tried this combination.

 

[T-Bagger]

@master.on is all about non test cycles. I’m pretty sure he has done this.

 

[master.on]

Has ever anyone tried primo or masteron alone? without test. if someone has done it, i wont his experience. i know everyone says , test is base blah blah blah, but iam asking for someone that did a stand alone cycle

For me HCG provides the missing Test and Estradiol.
But yeah, EQ, Masteron and Primo work fine on their own
Make sure you use enough of them. At least 600 mg per week, preferably 800 mg or even 1g. Most preferably add some 200-250 IU HCG per week.

 

[Reno]

For me HCG provides the missing Test and Estradiol.
But yeah, EQ, Masteron and Primo work fine on their own
Make sure you use enough of them. At least 600 mg per week, preferably 800 mg or even 1g. Most preferably add some 200-250 IU HCG per week.

Thanks man. The problem is with hcg now we have only pen pins with 1000iu per dose. The whole pen is 6000iu. One click turn gives you the 1000iu. They only sell this “ovitrelle” here.

 

[Delt123]

Had a conversation with a trt doctor and for healing purpose said to me that you can run primo alone because the supress will not be so enormous but you can add proviron alongside to have more free test available. This should work. I use test as base but never tried this combination.

Is this a so called trt clinics were you can get pharma stuff prescribed?

Did your doctor really said that? That a primo and provi combo won't supress that much? For healing purpose?

 

[Reno]

Is this a so called trt clinics were you can get pharma stuff prescribed?

Did your doctor really said that? That a primo and provi combo won't supress that much? For healing purpose?

Yes, indeed. Actually said use primo at 100mg/week for healing purpose and 50mg proviron instead of testo. When i say healing i mean for better muscle recovery overall, not for bodybuilding

 

[Reno]

I started with total test at 550ng. And e2 was below 10. All natural
Started 150mg primo/week
At 4th week total test is 42! E2 is at 12,5 prolactine is at 5. So i believe at least that it is primo! LDL is 139...limit is 130 and TOTAL CHOLESTEROL is 202, limit is 200. Hdl and triglycerides are all fine.
I didnt add any test. So for me everyone here who is saying add the least amount of test, guys you are right!!! 110%!!!
Now to the straight facts. Dont have any libido issues. But i have mood swings and feeling a little bit down. I just experimented to see how things go. Now i will add phenypropionate test 3 times per week ,100mg each time. I wanted to try this cause many people say that in one month and at such low dose primo cant suppress natural t. THEY ARE WRONG! 500 units down! With 150mg per week in one month below 50! Personal experience. Case closed. Gentlemen.... your comments...

 

[Delt123]

No surprise.

Search for another doc if he thinks it wouldn't of have

 

[master.on]

Thanks man. The problem is with hcg now we have only pen pins with 1000iu per dose. The whole pen is 6000iu. One click turn gives you the 1000iu. They only sell this “ovitrelle” here.

Then it's better to pour it all in an empty sterile vial and draw smaller HCG dosages as needed.
1000 IU at once is too much, it will skyrocket your estrogen.

 

[Reno]

Then it's better to pour it all in an empty sterile vial and draw smaller HCG dosages as needed.
1000 IU at once is too much, it will skyrocket your estrogen.

checked this hcg pen and its 6500iu at 0.5ml. It gives you ten "clicks" so every turn its 650iu. if i pour 0.5ml into a vial its impossible to use it properly. So it must be 650 iu per week. Is this dose ok?

 

[master.on]

checked this hcg pen and its 6500iu at 0.5ml. It gives you ten "clicks" so every turn its 650iu. if i pour 0.5ml into a vial its impossible to use it properly. So it must be 650 iu per week. Is this dose ok?

That's still too high a dose and its likely to skyrocket your estrogen
IMO 250 IU per week tops, and you can do fine on as low as 150 IU/w.

You can pour it all in an empty sterile vial and draw from it with an insulin syringe as needed.

 

[5millionbucks]

I ran tbol and then added var in as an all oral cycle for 7 weeks; believe my test was 85ng/dl while running hcg(believe it was bad causse it came in premixed) fsh was the same lh was slightly lower. My natty test is 404; so suppression wasn't too bad; did feel slightly lethargic latter on cycle could be the turinabol.

 

[Reno]

so whats the point on hcg? you tell your testes..."slow down" cause youre using test derivatives.then add the hcg wich just telling your testes to raise test production to dont get smaller. Cause what really bother us is HPTA axis. Hypophysis must send the signal to testicles. HCG just mimmicking the procedure. And has negative effect on hypophysis cause someone else sending the signal instead of it.
I believe from personal experience and other user experience on hcg (older pregnyl) that makes pct easier cause testes are not sleeping much time but if you run a small cycle (2 months) its a waste. Better keep hcg for pct.100mg per week test as base is far a better choice. personal opinion here.

 

[Worf]

Head over to isarms or Evo, I'm sure you'll find some retards that can answer your question. GL

just throw some raz-4000 in there and some hcgenerate and youll be g2g bro!

 

[88general88]

Head over to isarms or Evo, I'm sure you'll find some retards that can answer your question. GL

Or at least tell you what you want to hear . Lol isarms is a fucking joke and Evo uses to be a great source for info but it is embarrassing there now too. Steve smi, Trevor, an Dylan gimelli have brought disgrace to the sport

 

[5millionbucks]

so whats the point on hcg? you tell your testes..."slow down" cause youre using test derivatives.then add the hcg wich just telling your testes to raise test production to dont get smaller. Cause what really bother us is HPTA axis. Hypophysis must send the signal to testicles. HCG just mimmicking the procedure. And has negative effect on hypophysis cause someone else sending the signal instead of it.
I believe from personal experience and other user experience on hcg (older pregnyl) that makes pct easier cause testes are not sleeping much time but if you run a small cycle (2 months) its a waste. Better keep hcg for pct.100mg per week test as base is far a better choice. personal opinion here.

the whole purpose of hcg is to keep your nuts alive regardless and prevent degradation thats why, but some people recover fine without it; but now if your running 500mg a test a week for 12 weeks; I would use HCG regardless.