Hcg burned my leydig cells proof

[Brolloks]

Can you please resurrect my dead pitbull? He responds to the name Uzi.

 

[Dr JIM]

It Takes a lot longer for hcg to cause deterioration in testosterone production, some people stay on it for years without problems, I was from the ones HCG stopped working for them, Bit it was nothing as dramatic as burning of Leydig cells.

it's temporary in my case and maybe in yours.

HCG is not exactly LH but it stimulates almost all hormones.

While HCG Leydig cell “desensitization” has been demonstrated in some animal models it’s not been noted in humans per se.

What has been noted in humans is a decremental dose / response relationship.

In other words, while 250iu may
double a patients TT level a 1000iu dose is very unlikely to result in a quadrupling and so on.

While the precise mechanism varies from one class of compounds to another, this effect is observed with most, if not all drugs, and is often termed the “therapeutic threshold”.

More importantly, once the TT is reached the frequency of adverse effects only increases!

Jim

 

[Demondosage]

Thread is from 7 years ago, his balls are long gone and his penis is disintegrating day to day now

 

[Deleted member 59947]

While HCG Leydig cell “desensitization” has been demonstrated in some animal models it’s not been noted in humans per se.

What has been noted in humans is a decremental dose / response relationship.

In other words, while 250iu may
double a patients TT level a 1000iu dose is very unlikely to result in a quadrupling and so on.

While the precise mechanism varies from one class of compounds to another, this effect is observed with most, if not all drugs, and is often termed the “therapeutic threshold”.

More importantly, once the TT is reached the frequency of adverse effects only increases!

Jim

You make much more sense and your answers are a lot more understandable when you’re off tren and DON’T WRITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS

 

[EcpertRealistic]

For all of you who say HCG cannot destroy your leydig cells, well your wrong im the living proof! long story short was on for 500iu every night 7 days a week, in a month my testosterone whent from 400 ng/dl down to 168ng/dl! estrodial at 14 pg/ml so exessive estrogen is not the case, i took a 2 week pause now trying to get back on HCG at a much lower dose 250 iu three times weekly and my total testosterone is at 150 ng/dl now! keep in mind E2 is in check HCG is mixed the right way and all that, i still beleive that permanent damage from HCG to leydig cells is rare and wont happen to most people, but for some dam reason it sure happened to me , it might be rare but its definitely possible! just shows how everyones body and biochemistry is so much different, now ive made myself primary and finished off my testicles for good, i dont even feel the HCG bringing my testicles in size anymore, its finished working im over with it most likely will have to talk to my doc next week and start on T injections , had i known 500iu every night 7 days a week was to much id do a much lower dose but to late now the damage is done and i guess im gonna have to live with it its really two bad because the first 2-3 weeks on HCG i felt great! and thought id just top it off with a little bit of testosterone and id be fine.

Get off HCG. You can't run that much HCG without running that risk.

500ius a week max

Can't get greedy playing with fire.

 

[Dr JIM]

Get off HCG. You can't run that much HCG without running that risk.

500ius a week max

Can't get greedy playing with fire.

Seriously, are any of your posts evidence based!

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Seriously, are any of your posts evidence based!

 

[EcpertRealistic]

I won't run higher hcg for more than 2 or 3 weeks to avoid that risk. I haven't had testicle atrophy that require me to go that route tho.

Just 500ius week when on cycle