HCG: Intramuscular v. Subcutaneous

[MAYO]

So when injecting 2500iu, you would want to inject it intramuscularly, because it is such a large amount?

2500iu Why?! I guess you could split it up into a few sub-q's. What are you doing with a 2500iu single inject?

 

[Heavy Business]

Read that in order to properly restart the system after a cycle and not doing a proper PCT you should follow this protocol:
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day)
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day

 

[buddy1]

Either way will work fine. It comes down to personal preference. I agree with Mayo on the subject.

 

[IronCore]

Read that in order to properly restart the system after a cycle and not doing a proper PCT you should follow this protocol:
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day)
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day

SubQ is always the preferred method...

 

[MAYO]

Read that in order to properly restart the system after a cycle and not doing a proper PCT you should follow this protocol:
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day)
Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day

Then pin 1250 ED, that will cut the injection size in half.

 

[Renegade69]

Is it just me or does 2500iu's of hcg EOD seem a bit ridiculous......do you mean 250?

 

[MAYO]

Is it just me or does 2500iu's of hcg EOD seem a bit ridiculous......do you mean 250?

I think he's doin a post cycle blast. My layouts have it dosed at 1000iu ED for 20 days.

 

[IronCore]

I think he's doin a post cycle blast. My layouts have it dosed at 1000iu ED for 20 days.

Geez bro... your balls are goin to ache...

 

[MAYO]

Geez bro... your balls are goin to ache...

My bad that should be EOD

 

[Heavy Business]

Then pin 1250 ED, that will cut the injection size in half.

Will this work the same, based on the chemical half-lives, etc.?

I think he's doin a post cycle blast. My layouts have it dosed at 1000iu ED for 20 days.

My bad that should be EOD

So yours is 1000iu EOD for 20 days, why is yours different?

 

[MAYO]

Half life should be no issue as it is at minimum 48 hours.

My PCT was laid out by some of the vets on this site and I trust their personal experience.

 

[Heavy Business]

So that's your PCT, not your PCT blast for system recovery? (Sorry if I'm confused haha I just want to clarify)

 

[MAYO]

So that's your PCT, not your PCT blast for system recovery? (Sorry if I'm confused haha I just want to clarify)

Sorry, PCT in my mind is anything after my last shot of test
-after last test pin: 1000iu EOD 20 days
-day 24: 100mg clomi, 40mg nolva
-day 24-45: 50mg clomi, 20 mg nolva

 

[Conciliator]

And for those interested in the research on this...

Pharmacodynamics and pharmacokinetics after subcutaneous and intramuscular injection of human chorionic gonadotropin.

Fertil Steril. 1991 Aug;56(2):225-9.

Saal W, Glowania HJ, Hengst W, Happ J.

Bundeswehrzentralkrankenhaus, Koblenz, Germany.

OBJECTIVE: The pharmacokinetics and efficiency of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) after subcutaneous (SC) injection was to clarify in comparison with the intramuscular (IM) mode of administration. DESIGN: In a prospective study, the pharmacokinetics of hCG and the response of serum testosterone (T), luteinizing hormone (LH), and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) after an IM and SC injection of 5,000 IU hCG were evaluated up to 144 hours in two randomized groups. SETTING: The study was carried out in a clinical dermatology department providing tertiary care. PARTICIPANTS: Twenty-four healthy male volunteers with a mean age of 22.7 +/- 4.3 years were divided into two groups. INTERVENTIONS: Human chorionic gonadotropin (5,000 IU) was injected IM or SC. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Serum concentration of /b-hCG, T, LH, and FSH were evaluated after IM and SC administration of hCG. Differences between the two groups were determined by t-test. RESULTS: Compared with [intramuscular] administration of hCG, peak serum drug concentration was significantly delayed (P = 0.01) and serum half-life was prolonged (P = 0.01) after [subcutaneous] injection; however, [testosterone], LH, and FSH responses were identical. CONCLUSIONS: Subcutaneous application of 5,000 IU hCG is as effective as [intramuscular] administration in terms of [testosterone production].

PMID: 1712735 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[justaphan]

Why does everyone say that? I never had bitchy mood swings from clomid, i think when you guys were born your vagina didnt fully form into a penis causing you to still have 23.4% women in you.[)]

Clomid just brings out the woman in you more LOL.

I like putting 100% of me in women

I know it's an old post but I couldn't help myseld