HCG, Nolva for 'Natty' Testo Boosting

[VVV]

I know this sort of thing has been asked a 100 times. And trust me, I looked, I searched, and yet: nothing conclusive.
This is NOT for PCT.

Much rather to fix... decreasing libido.
Some say HCG will do nothing for you, Nolva can KILL libido, etc, etc.

So my libido is existing, but it's definitely not what it once was...
So first, I used a little clomid, felt the effect. But I had only 5 tabs. (hard to get here)

Then: HCG (250iu eod) plus a little Nolva (10mg eod). Worked GREAT!

Until.. now. Libido is vanishing. In spite of increased HCG and nolva (500 eod and 20mg ed).

What gives? Am I shutting myself down worse than before? What IS going on and what should I do?!

I don't want to go the TRT route...yet. Not if I can somehow boost my own production to decent levels.

I know HCG can shut down LH production, but shouldn't this dose that I use produce a lot of Testo right now?

Some sources out there recommend clomid and clomid alone to increase T, sperm count/fertility.

Am I making a mistake with the HCG and the Nolva? Should I go for Clomid alone?

Any knowledgeable advice with definite facts would be truly appreciated.
Confused, frustrated, not feeling so great.

Mark

 

[Eman]

Go see a doctor.

 

[Skull]

Whooweee im with @Eman on this on. You would benefit more from seeing a Doc.....

 

[VVV]

The doc will call me back Monday. Problem is where I live MD's know shit about trt...

 

[Apexvallen]

I am also somewhat interested out of curiosity. Anyone used clomid or nolva or both medium or long term just for a boost after going natty?

 

[Docd187123]

Who said you need a MD that knows TRT. You don't even know if your problem is hormonal or not.

 

[VVV]

Who said you need a MD that knows TRT. You don't even know if your problem is hormonal or not.

Ah. Too much SPH (Smarty Pants Hormone). I found this is used a lot on this forum...
I will not elaborate the obvious.
Educated, helpful and polite replies would be appreciated.

 

[Docd187123]

Ah. Too much SPH (Smarty Pants Hormone). I found this is used a lot on this forum...
I will not elaborate the obvious.
Educated, helpful and polite replies would be appreciated.

What you mean to say is: only answers that coincide with your pre-conceived biases will be accepted...

You could always try acting smart and then people might think you are

 

[Apexvallen]

Ah. Too much SPH (Smarty Pants Hormone). I found this is used a lot on this forum...
I will not elaborate the obvious.
Educated, helpful and polite replies would be appreciated.

Well he's right. What testing have you done so far? Fuck all. If you want the free help of experienced individuals you need to show some respect. If you knew everything you wouldn't be here asking questions now would you.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

I know this sort of thing has been asked a 100 times. And trust me, I looked, I searched, and yet: nothing conclusive.
This is NOT for PCT.

Much rather to fix... decreasing libido.
Some say HCG will do nothing for you, Nolva can KILL libido, etc, etc.

So my libido is existing, but it's definitely not what it once was...
So first, I used a little clomid, felt the effect. But I had only 5 tabs. (hard to get here)

Then: HCG (250iu eod) plus a little Nolva (10mg eod). Worked GREAT!

Until.. now. Libido is vanishing. In spite of increased HCG and nolva (500 eod and 20mg ed).

What gives? Am I shutting myself down worse than before? What IS going on and what should I do?!

I don't want to go the TRT route...yet. Not if I can somehow boost my own production to decent levels.

I know HCG can shut down LH production, but shouldn't this dose that I use produce a lot of Testo right now?

Some sources out there recommend clomid and clomid alone to increase T, sperm count/fertility.

Am I making a mistake with the HCG and the Nolva? Should I go for Clomid alone?

Any knowledgeable advice with definite facts would be truly appreciated.
Confused, frustrated, not feeling so great.

Mark

Running pct meds for more than 8 weeks seems to cause loss of libido.
Lots of people complaining about this. Was all good at first and then BOOOM.

The reason is actually unknown but a theory is that this meds can cause hormonal imbalances and rise progesterone, prolactin and estrogen...

Try 12.5 mgs of Aromasin every 4 days to see if high estrogen is causing your loss of libido

 

[Docd187123]

Running pct meds for more than 8 weeks seems to cause loss of libido.
Lots of people complaining about this. Was all good at first and then BOOOM.

The reason is actually unknown but a theory is that this meds can cause hormonal imbalances and rise progesterone, prolactin and estrogen...

Try 12.5 mgs of Aromasin every 4 days to see if high estrogen is causing your loss of libido

Shut the fuck up you idiot

 

[grey]

I will not elaborate the obvious.

Don't be a shithead.

You have pose=ted no tests, no numbers, nothing but subjective "feelz".

You have exactly no idea what is causing your problem, yet when someone points out that your concern about docs and TRT is based on literally nothing, your ass gets hurt.

Stop that shit.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Shut the fuck up you idiot

His replies are astonishingly cocksure and precise in their outrageousness.

An evil troll that delights in misguiding people.

 

[grey]

I found this is used a lot on this forum...

His replies are astonishingly cocksure and precise in their outrageousness.

Well put.

He should go try EVO then.... clearly the free ice cream here is not tickling his distinguished pallet.

 

[Apexvallen]

Running pct meds for more than 8 weeks seems to cause loss of libido.
Lots of people complaining about this. Was all good at first and then BOOOM.

The reason is actually unknown but a theory is that this meds can cause hormonal imbalances and rise progesterone, prolactin and estrogen...

Try 12.5 mgs of Aromasin every 4 days to see if high estrogen is causing your loss of libido

I thought patients were prescribed clomid for months and monnths and months for fertility issues and didnt have libido issues. Both men and women.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I am also somewhat interested out of curiosity. Anyone used clomid or nolva or both medium or long term just for a boost after going natty?

I have.

Low dose clomid @12.5mg twice a week puts my free test 25% above top end of the lab range.
I do 25mg aromasin once every few weeks to lower SHBG

 

[VVV]

I have.

Low dose clomid @12.5mg twice a week puts my free test 25% above top end of the lab range.
I do 25mg aromasin once every few weeks to lower SHBG

Finally some useful advise. I will test this exact protocol. Thanks for this!

 

[VVV]

BTW the libido issue was cause by NOLVADEX. BEWARE!!

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Finally some useful advise. I will test this exact protocol. Thanks for this!

I’m suspecting Clomid to be the culprit of my current libido issues, I would imagine it’s not healthy to have an estrogen agonist/antagonist active for a year in my brain.

If I were to do it again I would probably only boost my T with Exemestane here and there.
Leave Clomid for when a short hard restart is needed, do not use it if you are not suppressed in the first place.

 

[william12]

Nolva doesn't have permanent effect on anyone using it short term in low dose, actually the benefits are more evident.

Even if it causes lack of libido then you will recover , if you had normal libido before using Nolva.

Hcg definately can boost libido in most but abusing it can have adverse effects on T production etc...

You need some blood work to see where you stand and what the real issues are.

Checking Prolactin levels is of major importance as well