Headaches and fever after starting first cycle high dosages

[Mazzy]

Hi guys i just started my first cycle at 500mg Tren A and 750mg Test E per week (i know using tren isn't recommended when doing your first cycle and the dosages are way too high for a first timer)

I'm only on week one and hours after every injection i've gotten a headache, slight fever in the mornings too. PIP is also there, on my delts it went away after 6 days. My resting heart rate went from 50-55 to 70-90. I have arimidex on hand and thought about using it since i read that high e2 causes headaches? Is this a good idea? at what dose and frequency?

I also stopped drinking a healthy amount of water since I have headaches the whole day and don't want to drink water, im at 1.5L a day MAX. Upped it to 3 from today on.

Info about my PIP:
After my injections my sites get red and sore for a few days, no lumps or anything form. Also no blood when i take the needle out.

Info about my fever:
Very cold feet while having a warm face, headaches and craving sugar (watermelon, soda,...). No coughs, no slime, no throat pain,...


Other side effects so far:
I remember all my dreams when I wake up and i've dreamt like 6 days in a row that my crush sent me a massage on instagram (wtf?). I also wake up after sleeping for 3-4 hours even though i just close my eyes again and sleep a little more because of the headaches.

 

[borkies]

Hi guys i just started my first cycle at 500mg Tren A and 750mg Test E per week (i know using tren isn't recommended when doing your first cycle and the dosages are way too high for a first timer)

Yes, yes they are too high for a first timer. And tren is definitely not recommended.

I'm only on week one and hours after every injection i've gotten a headache, slight fever in the mornings too. PIP is also there, on my delts it went away after 6 days. My resting heart rate went from 50-55 to 70-90. I have arimidex on hand and thought about using it since i read that high e2 causes headaches? Is this a good idea? at what dose and frequency?

There is no way that if this is your first week of injecting that e2 is an issue. You havent had enough time to build up Test levels yet to aromatize that much. I would not start popping AIs at this point. Resting heart rate may just be the sudden blast of Tren Ace now coursing thru your system which HAS had enough time to take effect. Congratulations, you've got a shit ton of tren in your system with only natty test levels at this point.

I also stopped drinking a healthy amount of water since I have headaches the whole day and don't want to drink water, im at 1.5L a day MAX. Upped it to 3 from today on.

Info about my PIP:
After my injections my sites get red and sore for a few days, no lumps or anything form. Also no blood when i take the needle out.

This might just be virgin muscle / PIP. Tren A can be inflammatory as well. You're probably injecting a lot of volume for a new guy. Hopefully you are rotating multiple sites and injecting daily.

Info about my fever:
Very cold feet while having a warm face, headaches and craving sugar (watermelon, soda,...). No coughs, no slime, no throat pain,...

Have you considered that you might actually be getting sick? What about your injection sites, do they look infected?

Other side effects so far:
I remember all my dreams when I wake up and i've dreamt like 6 days in a row that my crush sent me a massage on instagram (wtf?). I also wake up after sleeping for 3-4 hours even though i just close my eyes again and sleep a little more because of the headaches.

Yeah, sounds like tren. Enjoy.

 

[Exhortae]

Wow just wow.

You should add 750 mg of deca, i heard arnold used a lot of deca

And throw some dbol for anabolism

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Boring troll

 

[Mazzy]

Boring troll

? why would i lie, just made this account to ask my question

 

[Mazzy]

Yes, yes they are too high for a first timer. And tren is definitely not recommended.

There is no way that if this is your first week of injecting that e2 is an issue. You havent had enough time to build up Test levels yet to aromatize that much. I would not start popping AIs at this point. Resting heart rate may just be the sudden blast of Tren Ace now coursing thru your system which HAS had enough time to take effect. Congratulations, you've got a shit ton of tren in your system with only natty test levels at this point.

This might just be virgin muscle / PIP. Tren A can be inflammatory as well. You're probably injecting a lot of volume for a new guy. Hopefully you are rotating multiple sites and injecting daily.

Have you considered that you might actually be getting sick? What about your injection sites, do they look infected?

Yeah, sounds like tren. Enjoy.

I have pinned in both my delts and my right glute, changing sites because of the soreness. I get sick thinking about injecting the same spot.

I don't think i have an infection, i pinned my delts and my biceps got a bit red. Nothing else. The pip from my delts was gone after day 6 (today), i do have pip from my glute now...

 

[Dang-1]

The amount of wrong here that could be remedied by using the search function and having the reading comprehension of a 5th grader is kinda staggering.

Maybe try just 500mg test a week and drop the tren? Like everyone recommends for a first cycle over and over again.

Also who told you to start tren at 500mg a week, kinda spectacularly bad advice there.

 

[Vanargandar]

Hi guys i just started my first cycle at 500mg Tren A and 750mg Test E per week (i know using tren isn't recommended when doing your first cycle and the dosages are way too high for a first timer)

So you knew this was a bad idea and did it anyway? You're beyond help.

 

[Whopperflopper]

Op gonna die.

8mls oil to delts weekly?

If your shoulder are that big, why you asking us?

Op gonna die.

 

[DECLAN]

Guys be gentle or else you'll be in trouble, hold his hands and guide him slowly.

 

[effswithtren]

You say you shouldn’t be doing what you’re doing, you do it anyway, then you complain you don’t know why bad side effects are cropping up.

Maybe knock off the stupid shot you shouldn’t be doing. That tren won’t work out like you think it will. But you can’t tell these new members shit, so I guess best of luck.

 

[Dang-1]

Op gonna die.

8mls oil to delts weekly?

If your shoulder are that big, why you asking us?

Op gonna die.

I missed that he is pinning delts. Dear god man delts are for 2ml or less shots.

Op please google how to a VG shot and stick with that and glute shots. It’s the safest places and with 500mg test a week you can pin EOD or E3D a fairly small volume of oil. You should have little to no pip.

If you’re insistent on keeping tren maybe try 50-100mg a week with 300-400mg test. Tren is disproportionately strong so it really shouldn’t be in your first cycle at all but if it is then the test should be dropped way down.

Headache, night sweats, sleep problems,ect… will continue for you for probably 1-2 weeks once you drop the tren and lower the test as you went instantaneous to veteran PED user doses and your body is in shock. You have some decent time with trens 2 day half life before you will start feeling better as everything you’re quoting are notorious tren side effects. With the amount you’ve taken a week of nothing will help and then start just test at 500mg week.

I know alought of people are mocking your pain and you did something stupid so it’s deserved but I bet your going to continue your cycle so in the interest of harm reduction maybe consider doing a proven cycle that can absolutely gain you 20lbs without trashing your body. Aka just test with an AI.

 

[Mazzy]

I missed that he is pinning delts. Dear god man delts are for 2ml or less shots.

Op please google how to a VG shot and stick with that and glute shots. It’s the safest places and with 500mg test a week you can pin EOD or E3D a fairly small volume of oil. You should have little to no pip.

If you’re insistent on keeping tren maybe try 50-100mg a week with 300-400mg test. Tren is disproportionately strong so it really shouldn’t be in your first cycle at all but if it is then the test should be dropped way down.

Headache, night sweats, sleep problems,ect… will continue for you for probably 1-2 weeks once you drop the tren and lower the test as you went instantaneous to veteran PED user doses and your body is in shock. You have some decent time with trens 2 day half life before you will start feeling better as everything you’re quoting are notorious tren side effects. With the amount you’ve taken a week of nothing will help and then start just test at 500mg week.

I know alought of people are mocking your pain and you did something stupid so it’s deserved but I bet your going to continue your cycle so in the interest of harm reduction maybe consider doing a proven cycle that can absolutely gain you 20lbs without trashing your body. Aka just test with an AI.

thanks for responding, i didn't pin anything for the last 2 days and will take a break till i feel better. And yeah I think I will drop the tren and maybe add 100mg/week in like week 7-8. Just going to continue at 500mg Test once i feel better.

Again, thanks for the advice

 

[Dang-1]

thanks for responding, i didn't pin anything for the last 2 days and will take a break till i feel better. And yeah I think I will drop the tren and maybe add 100mg/week in like week 7-8. Just going to continue at 500mg Test once i feel better.

Again, thanks for the advice

Honestly man, your response made my day. It’s like a telephone back to my old 20 year old self actually worked. The other thing I wish I could relay was to buy a food scale seriously tracking macros is actually 60% of the game. Gear and training like a maniac on cycle are all wasted if you bulk up dirty on cycle and then hard cut back down after. You just end up looking the same.

The #1 hardest thing for me is food control on cycle because you actually can’t eat sugar and fats and keep your abs while bulking. Hitting 300-800 cal above maintenance consistently is a chore that pays rediculous dividends and if my 20 year old self actually heard and understood that I wouldn’t have wasted so many cycles of harsh AAS. (Tren was my main back then and it’s pretty destructive FYI).

 

[Astartes]

Hi guys i just started my first cycle at 500mg Tren A and 750mg Test E per week (i know using tren isn't recommended when doing your first cycle and the dosages are way too high for a first timer)

I'm only on week one and hours after every injection i've gotten a headache, slight fever in the mornings too. PIP is also there, on my delts it went away after 6 days. My resting heart rate went from 50-55 to 70-90. I have arimidex on hand and thought about using it since i read that high e2 causes headaches? Is this a good idea? at what dose and frequency?

I also stopped drinking a healthy amount of water since I have headaches the whole day and don't want to drink water, im at 1.5L a day MAX. Upped it to 3 from today on.

Info about my PIP:
After my injections my sites get red and sore for a few days, no lumps or anything form. Also no blood when i take the needle out.

Info about my fever:
Very cold feet while having a warm face, headaches and craving sugar (watermelon, soda,...). No coughs, no slime, no throat pain,...


Other side effects so far:
I remember all my dreams when I wake up and i've dreamt like 6 days in a row that my crush sent me a massage on instagram (wtf?). I also wake up after sleeping for 3-4 hours even though i just close my eyes again and sleep a little more because of the headaches.

Are you also doing HGH?

 

[4Drago]

Other then tren being tren, using exogenous test at high doses can cause an immune system response.

The body isn't used to those levels so it interprets it like it would a foreign body. Like a virus. Hence the flu like reaction of fever and chills.

Called test flu by some.

 

[Jsdaking1]

Oh boy

 

[Mazzy]

thanks for responding, i didn't pin anything for the last 2 days and will take a break till i feel better. And yeah I think I will drop the tren and maybe add 100mg/week in like week 7-8. Just going to continue at 500mg Test once i feel better.

Again, thanks for the advice

Are you also doing HGH?

no

 

[Mazzy]

Other then tren being tren, using exogenous test at high doses can cause an immune system response.

The body isn't used to those levels so it interprets it like it would a foreign body. Like a virus. Hence the flu like reaction of fever and chills.

Called test flu by some.

Thanks for the information!

My tren is 100mg/ml and test is 250mg/ml. I pinned 2ml tren in my right delt and because i was so anxious i pinned 2ml test in my left delt instead of 1ml... I literally forgot my test was 250mg/ml and not 100mg/ml, stupid mistake...

Will test flu go away on it's own or should I start at a lower dose and taper up? Currently i haven't pinned test in 6 days because i want to feel better first. Today i finally felt good again so i guess i can pin tomorrow.

 

[Mazzy]

Yes, yes they are too high for a first timer. And tren is definitely not recommended.

There is no way that if this is your first week of injecting that e2 is an issue. You havent had enough time to build up Test levels yet to aromatize that much. I would not start popping AIs at this point. Resting heart rate may just be the sudden blast of Tren Ace now coursing thru your system which HAS had enough time to take effect. Congratulations, you've got a shit ton of tren in your system with only natty test levels at this point.

This might just be virgin muscle / PIP. Tren A can be inflammatory as well. You're probably injecting a lot of volume for a new guy. Hopefully you are rotating multiple sites and injecting daily.

Have you considered that you might actually be getting sick? What about your injection sites, do they look infected?

Yeah, sounds like tren. Enjoy.

Hey thanks for responding

So i should take Test for like 4-5 weeks AT LEAST before adding tren so my test levels can reach their peak first?

I really don't think i got sick by something else because i only went to the supermarket in 3 days before getting sick, no random human interaction outisde and no one in my house is sick so yeah.

The injection site doesn't look infected, its just a bit red and warm.