Heath or Greene?

Ramy is a true freak given time he's back and calves should come up even still I can't see him winning because he doesn't speak english. Fucked up but the truth.

Which is a shame, he's supposedly a very nice guy to all his fans and people who meet him in person, even though he doesn't really speak English.
 
Anyone else notice how much freakier Phil heath's forearms are compared to everyone else? The guy has some of the best forearm genetics I have ever seen, I know it doesn't sound like something that really matters, but it really makes his upper arms seem that much more impressive as well... I don't think Kai comes close to Phil in this area, as insignificant as it may be.

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Frank in my opinion has some of the biggest and most freakish forearms in the game. Freakish to the point that it offsets his entire arm symmetry.

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Frank in my opinion has some of the biggest and most freakish forearms in the game. Freakish to the point that it offsets his entire arm symmetry.

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Impressive forearm development, very impressive. But I would agree that they are disproportionate in relation to his upper arms. Not ideal imo, I would rather have smaller forearms than disproportionately large forearms, the appearance of his upper arms really suffers with forearms that big.
 
true, I've only seen the photos posted here. I just watched the press conference of Heath and Kai. Kai just fucking rambles about stupid shit. Heath spanked both George Ferra and Kai's ass in mental wit. I think the next Mr. O will be this guy. I can't think of his name atm. he just needs to improve his back and he will beat Heath. IMHO


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Ramy is placing how he deserves at the moment. This is the only real threat in moving up the ranks at the moment on the olympia stage, he is maintaining size also getting bigger in the process every year for the past two years of his competitive life as a pro. But he just needs some time. I think he is being pushed heavy by middle east personnel. Its another story if politics ever interfere with his potential. But the money, and the right drug availability is there for him at moment.
 
Impressive forearm development, very impressive. But I would agree that they are disproportionate in relation to his upper arms. Not ideal imo, I would rather have smaller forearms than disproportionately large forearms, the appearance of his upper arms really suffers with forearms that big.

yea thats frank mcgrath lol bigger forearms then biceps. But he probably has arguably the best skin and conditioning seen in the past 10 years of the sport.
 
Frank has forearms like the older BB. Frank actually has huge Bi's and Tri's. BB now days have shitty forearms. Lee Priest was using Synthol at the end. I lost respect for Priest or who ever else uses Synthol.
 
Synthol is currently playing a pretty huge role in top level BB'ing imo...all these guys with crazy arm measurements, 20", you really have to wonder how much of their measurements can be attributed to site enhancing oils...

Just looking at these guys its obvious that SEO is used quite a lot. Being grainy in most places but having a soft / smooth / completely unnnatural look in certain other places is a pretty good giveaway

Compared to 90's BB'ers, who were pretty much grainy and dry all over without any blatantly smooth areas:

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Synthol is currently playing a pretty huge role in top level BB'ing imo...all these guys with crazy arm measurements, 20", you really have to wonder how much of their measurements can be attributed to site enhancing oils...

Just looking at these guys its obvious that SEO is used quite a lot. Being grainy in most places but having a soft / smooth / completely unnnatural look in certain other places is a pretty good giveaway

Compared to 90's BB'ers, who were pretty much grainy and dry all over without any blatantly smooth areas:

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the judges are suppose to take points away for synthol use and they should disqualify them in my book. that would put a stop to the synthol use. synthol use has ruined a lot of top BB careers. like Nasser and Coleman. they both had atrophy of the lat from synthol use in their lats. that is just two I can think of right now.
 
I will say the 212 class is more entertaining they come in way more conditioned. Since there is a ceiling cap I think synthol isn't as prevalent as it is in the open. I could be wrong however I just see 212 folks coming in grainy. The conditioning of the open seriously lacks.
 
I will say the 212 class is more entertaining they come in way more conditioned. Since there is a ceiling cap I think synthol isn't as prevalent as it is in the open. I could be wrong however I just see 212 folks coming in grainy. The conditioning of the open seriously lacks.

212 physiques are much more appealing with the overall quality I agree swell. Besides the fact flex is a belgian blue bull in the offseason, the guys right below him in my opinion are better conditioned at this years show then him. Its beyond me how David henry placed second below flex. Henry looks better off conditioned and the mass is superior. But thats my personal opinion. I know it comes down to overall poses rather then one angle picture versus the other competitors. Even jose raymond could of easily competed for that second first place spot over flex. Jose was on point with his conditioning. Correa was great with conditioning aswell, but he lacks size compared to the others
 
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