Help choosing between tren and wintrol

[Jestopherson]

If the var is real theres no need to dose it higher. Anavar is probably one of if the not best oral all around

I love the stuff! 60mg and I feel insane in the gym and look damn good. Relatively haha

 

[lilhawk]

They’re 2 totally different drugs, taking more of one isn’t going to equal the other.

 

[Johnk97209]

Never used winstrol but honestly 200mg tren for a first go would be plenty. I just did 150, had noticeable changes by end of week 1. New vascularity that I've never hard before on my triceps and lats. Sides very manageable with am enjoyable strength and libido increase.

That's the extent of my experience with tren though, but maybe it carries some weight albeit very minimal.

thanks for the reply. Have you ever tried any orals? I'm wondering how 150mg tren might compare to other orals just in terms of strength gains as well as aesthetics. Also did you need any ancillaries with the 150mg? A low dose tren cycle sounds great but if you have to worry about your progesterone even at a low dose then it makes orals like Anavar and winstrol seem a bit more straightforward and easier in terms of "peace of mind" . Plus I like buying my gear domestic and the caber would have to be shipped overseas.

 

[Johnk97209]

They’re 2 totally different drugs, taking more of one isn’t going to equal the other.

I'm just talking about the end result. Which one makes you look better, which one do you grow better on, which one produces more strength gains. I feel like you can compare literally any steroid by these metrics based on thier respective doses. Based on my goals I would be looking to do a low dose tren so I was wondering what a comparable tren dose would be to 50mg winstrol in terms of thier power to produce these results. It sounds like about 150-200mg of tren.

 

[NLM36]

I'm just talking about the end result. Which one makes you look better, which one do you grow better on, which one produces more strength gains. I feel like you can compare literally any steroid by these metrics based on thier respective doses. Based on my goals I would be looking to do a low dose tren so I was wondering what a comparable tren dose would be to 50mg winstrol in terms of thier power to produce these results. It sounds like about 150-200mg of tren.

They’re not comparable. 50mg tren eod shits on Winstrol. 50mg anavar a day shits on Winstrol.

 

[Johnk97209]

I love the stuff! 60mg and I feel insane in the gym and look damn good. Relatively haha

The source I got for the Anavar was Beligas. I'm new to the scene so I know there are probably better and cheaper sources, but I felt assured it was legit because I saw a Janoshik testing result that showed 46.##mg of oxandralone in thier 50mg pills. Was wondering tho- is oxandralone oxandralone or are there different quality levels between different sources? If it tested as oxandralone by Janoshik is it for sure legit?

 

[Johnk97209]

They’re not comparable. 50mg tren eod shits on Winstrol. 50mg anavar a day shits on Winstrol.

Okay good to know thanks

 

[MisterSuperGod]

The source I got for the Anavar was Beligas. I'm new to the scene so I know there are probably better and cheaper sources, but I felt assured it was legit because I saw a Janoshik testing result that showed 46.##mg of oxandralone in thier 50mg pills. Was wondering tho- is oxandralone oxandralone or are there different quality levels between different sources? If it tested as oxandralone by Janoshik is it for sure legit?

There's only one chemical structure that makes Anavar what it is. Any alteration and it's no longer Anavar.

If it tested legit, there was no tomfoolery with labels and you have the same batch then you're fine.

 

[Jestopherson]

thanks for the reply. Have you ever tried any orals? I'm wondering how 150mg tren might compare to other orals just in terms of strength gains as well as aesthetics. Also did you need any ancillaries with the 150mg? A low dose tren cycle sounds great but if you have to worry about your progesterone even at a low dose then it makes orals like Anavar and winstrol seem a bit more straightforward and easier in terms of "peace of mind" . Plus I like buying my gear domestic and the caber would have to be shipped overseas.

I've used adrol, dbol, var, and tbol. Definitely did not need ancillaries at 150mg. I test was at 600mg so I just made sure to keep my estrogen in range.

Honestly tren at 150mg yielded the fasted physical results. Abombs strength. Var is an incredible middle ground for me. Dbol great strength but full water Balloon and tbol was most ascetic