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[Bob1990]

quick story:
Last time I was on the gear about 12 years ago.. Life moved on started my own business then had a kid.. stopped hitting the gym and didn't PCT properly..my test started to going down a few years ago..

Now I am struggling with massively low test at 6.4 nmol/L, cortisol low too, cholesterol bumped up a lot too..
I've got panick attacks, cannot sleep properly, my muscles are burned out after few min at work, no focus, low stamina..

Waiting for NHS to do anything is pointless and probably they wouldn't help properly anyway with their stuff.. They said 8-12months anyway. I rather do it myself and hit the gym again. I don’t really want to go TRT way through any private clinic..
I rather do it old fashioned way if you know what I mean

I was thinking to bring myself to normal with cypionate and HCG
Get on Cardarine to help loose some fat and stick proviron on too..

I know I am not allowed asking for sources..
Just I don’t even know how to find any now..

I don't know any source after all this time gone and people..
two lads I used to work out 12 yr ago left the country and I have no contact I literally have no one to ask.. only internet and hope some strangers will help..
I am gutted and desperate to find any good gear now..
I've see all this stuff online but how can you trust it these days..

A lot have changed since I was on the gear all these years ago..
I've seen all this Pharmaqo, Androchem, Hemi Pharma, Intex but all the reviews...
and I don't think good gear would be that easy to get..
I went on one website there was some Viogen cyp in stock and HCG.
I’ve placed an order and next day received an email that Test C is out of stock and I am getting a refund..
tried another site and had them Jano certificate photoshopped..

What you guys think about buying gear online? Its just for me hard to believe that now it’s all online..
I used to get gear face to face it’s just feel crazy now..

I don't want to make things worse for myself anymore..
Need to be back to life again and provide for my family plus lift weights and be a beast again like years back..

I don't know where to go and what to do at all I am that desperate I might just wait outside the gym and ask someone for direction to find a good source..

 

[IndividualMan]

I was thinking to bring myself to normal with cypionate and HCG
Get on Cardarine to help loose some fat and stick proviron on too..

bad plan, get your health in check first. get a solid source for test, look at other stuff later.

if you want to be sure of quality, get yourself a pharmacy (look into the names of the sources) reseller, and send a sample of it to analiza (if poor) /janoshik (if not poor).

if you dont have a pea/peenut allergy, and live in the UK, (NHS mentioned) you can go India route (any vendor with PCT in their name) and buy test from any of them. they do seem to have okeyish UK delivery times.
same thing with sending a sample to a testing place applies.

 

[sionnach]

 

[Bob1990]

I know most of you will probably be careful with words as I am new here and you can’t trust just new members- totally understandable.

But like I said I was away from gym and gear 12 years and now seeking help.. just don’t know where to go and where to start.. I am lost in new Underground world it’s totally different than I used to be on gear..
I thought I’ll try here for help..

 

[IndividualMan]

look at the vendor threads ffs, I told you what the specific words you should look for are.
Pharmacy= reselling pharmacy products+
PCT= reselling indian pharmacy products
go from there read the last 10-15 pages to look at the trustworthiness of the vendors.
watch a youtube tutorial on how to set up a kraken wallet for payment with Bitcoin or USDT, and you are good to go.

Now take my spoon out of you mouth. Otherwise your dentist will see the marks during your next visit.

 

[sionnach]

I know most of you will probably be careful with words as I am new here and you can’t trust just new members- totally understandable.

But like I said I was away from gym and gear 12 years and now seeking help.. just don’t know where to go and where to start.. I am lost in new Underground world it’s totally different than I used to be on gear..
I thought I’ll try here for help..

Stop posting here. Go read the rules, noob.

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[Tdeck81]

I don't know where to go and what to do at all I am that desperate I might just wait outside the gym and ask someone for direction to find a good source..

You clearly didn’t take the time to read through the etiquette info when you signed up. I’ll give you a hint it tells you what you did is a no no. I’m cutting you a break because you kind of did an intro. But read through the link listed above and then take part in our community. It’ll be clear what to do if you just follow the path laid out before you

 

[Bob1990]

Sorry lads
Just slightly knackered and desperate that’s all and new to online ways..

Will start over again properly

 

[Elektrobot]

cholesterol bumped up a lot too..

no focus

low stamina..

High cholesterol, low energy sounds like lifestyle fixes are in order. You might be surprised at what your test levels do if you do the work to get healthy.

 

[Bob1990]

High cholesterol, low energy sounds like lifestyle fixes are in order. You might be surprised at what your test levels do if you do the work to get healthy.

I know what you’re saying pal..
I’ve tried everything..


I’ve got low test for few years now..
I am keeping the food, and physical activity all this time as it should. Also my job is also full of exercises. I am back to weights since sep last year but I am struggling to get any pump and do whole workout as my muscles are just done and flat out after few reps and cannot regenerate.. the test it’s just that low it won’t work without help from the outside. I just need to go back on gear. Took me few months already searching but I’ll find it soon

Low T reduces the livers ability to get rid of the cholesterol and keep it at proper level..
It all makes sense when I see my blood results

 

[trytryagain]

To some degree, depending upon your metabolic health/state, you may also find Tirzepatide useful for both getting what it is advertised to do (assist with blood sugar/insulin sensitivity and reduce food noise so better/best decisions can be made in the department) and what is still investigational/anecdotal (reduce fatty liver, reduce non-food substance cravings/addictions, reduce body-wide inflammation abruptly and significantly).

Or not, but worth looking into esp. for those of us of a certain age with a certain hilltop behind us and maybe concern about being around to be a happy healthy spouse or parent or grandparent for a while longer…

TTA

 

[hooligansluck]

Without proper blood work and proper diag, your just gonna be some wanker guessing at ones issues. You need to post a update blood work in the proper place and you will get some adequate advice on were to go.

 

[Bob1990]

Thanks lads @hooligansluck @trytryagain
I am doing my blood regularly for years.
Will definitely sort the thing out here

 

[Deadpool99]

quick story:
Last time I was on the gear about 12 years ago.. Life moved on started my own business then had a kid.. stopped hitting the gym and didn't PCT properly..my test started to going down a few years ago..

Now I am struggling with massively low test at 6.4 nmol/L, cortisol low too, cholesterol bumped up a lot too..
I've got panick attacks, cannot sleep properly, my muscles are burned out after few min at work, no focus, low stamina..

Waiting for NHS to do anything is pointless and probably they wouldn't help properly anyway with their stuff.. They said 8-12months anyway. I rather do it myself and hit the gym again. I don’t really want to go TRT way through any private clinic..
I rather do it old fashioned way if you know what I mean

I was thinking to bring myself to normal with cypionate and HCG
Get on Cardarine to help loose some fat and stick proviron on too..

I know I am not allowed asking for sources..
Just I don’t even know how to find any now..

I don't know any source after all this time gone and people..
two lads I used to work out 12 yr ago left the country and I have no contact I literally have no one to ask.. only internet and hope some strangers will help..
I am gutted and desperate to find any good gear now..
I've see all this stuff online but how can you trust it these days..

A lot have changed since I was on the gear all these years ago..
I've seen all this Pharmaqo, Androchem, Hemi Pharma, Intex but all the reviews...
and I don't think good gear would be that easy to get..
I went on one website there was some Viogen cyp in stock and HCG.
I’ve placed an order and next day received an email that Test C is out of stock and I am getting a refund..
tried another site and had them Jano certificate photoshopped..

What you guys think about buying gear online? Its just for me hard to believe that now it’s all online..
I used to get gear face to face it’s just feel crazy now..

I don't want to make things worse for myself anymore..
Need to be back to life again and provide for my family plus lift weights and be a beast again like years back..

I don't know where to go and what to do at all I am that desperate I might just wait outside the gym and ask someone for direction to find a good source..

Quick q, how does your diet look like? Do you get enough fats.

 

[Bob1990]

Quick q, how does your diet look like? Do you get enough fats.

For a while doing around 220g protein,
280g carbs and max 100g fats

Something around that

 

[Deadpool99]

quick story:
Last time I was on the gear about 12 years ago.. Life moved on started my own business then had a kid.. stopped hitting the gym and didn't PCT properly..my test started to going down a few years ago..

Now I am struggling with massively low test at 6.4 nmol/L, cortisol low too, cholesterol bumped up a lot too..
I've got panick attacks, cannot sleep properly, my muscles are burned out after few min at work, no focus, low stamina..

Waiting for NHS to do anything is pointless and probably they wouldn't help properly anyway with their stuff.. They said 8-12months anyway. I rather do it myself and hit the gym again. I don’t really want to go TRT way through any private clinic..
I rather do it old fashioned way if you know what I mean

I was thinking to bring myself to normal with cypionate and HCG
Get on Cardarine to help loose some fat and stick proviron on too..

I know I am not allowed asking for sources..
Just I don’t even know how to find any now..

I don't know any source after all this time gone and people..
two lads I used to work out 12 yr ago left the country and I have no contact I literally have no one to ask.. only internet and hope some strangers will help..
I am gutted and desperate to find any good gear now..
I've see all this stuff online but how can you trust it these days..

A lot have changed since I was on the gear all these years ago..
I've seen all this Pharmaqo, Androchem, Hemi Pharma, Intex but all the reviews...
and I don't think good gear would be that easy to get..
I went on one website there was some Viogen cyp in stock and HCG.
I’ve placed an order and next day received an email that Test C is out of stock and I am getting a refund..
tried another site and had them Jano certificate photoshopped..

What you guys think about buying gear online? Its just for me hard to believe that now it’s all online..
I used to get gear face to face it’s just feel crazy now..

I don't want to make things worse for myself anymore..
Need to be back to life again and provide for my family plus lift weights and be a beast again like years back..

I don't know where to go and what to do at all I am that desperate I might just wait outside the gym and ask someone for direction to find a good source..

If you’re set on improving things I also suggest lab work on:
LH, FSH, prolactin, TSH as well.

For example you could try restarting ur natural test production but that also depends if ur still producing LH and FSH. If you are then you won't need HCG.

 

[Deadpool99]

For a while doing around 220g protein,
280g carbs and max 100g fats

Something around that

Good, cuz I once made a mistake of going low fat as a natural and had horrible, I mean horrible Total and Free testosterone.

 

[Bob1990]

Thanks bud,
Yeah someone said that to me before too.

Been off for 12 years now need to go back on gear. There is no way of fixing these without gear.
Tried for years now. And my test is always sitting around 6-7nmol/L. Rest of the things are bad too.. getting it delivered this week soon so will see in a few weeks if the bloodwork starts improving.

 

[testosquirrelmk2]

quick story:
Last time I was on the gear about 12 years ago.. Life moved on started my own business then had a kid.. stopped hitting the gym and didn't PCT properly..my test started to going down a few years ago..

Now I am struggling with massively low test at 6.4 nmol/L, cortisol low too, cholesterol bumped up a lot too..
I've got panick attacks, cannot sleep properly, my muscles are burned out after few min at work, no focus, low stamina..

Waiting for NHS to do anything is pointless and probably they wouldn't help properly anyway with their stuff.. They said 8-12months anyway. I rather do it myself and hit the gym again. I don’t really want to go TRT way through any private clinic..
I rather do it old fashioned way if you know what I mean

I was thinking to bring myself to normal with cypionate and HCG
Get on Cardarine to help loose some fat and stick proviron on too..

I know I am not allowed asking for sources..
Just I don’t even know how to find any now..

I don't know any source after all this time gone and people..
two lads I used to work out 12 yr ago left the country and I have no contact I literally have no one to ask.. only internet and hope some strangers will help..
I am gutted and desperate to find any good gear now..
I've see all this stuff online but how can you trust it these days..

A lot have changed since I was on the gear all these years ago..
I've seen all this Pharmaqo, Androchem, Hemi Pharma, Intex but all the reviews...
and I don't think good gear would be that easy to get..
I went on one website there was some Viogen cyp in stock and HCG.
I’ve placed an order and next day received an email that Test C is out of stock and I am getting a refund..
tried another site and had them Jano certificate photoshopped..

What you guys think about buying gear online? Its just for me hard to believe that now it’s all online..
I used to get gear face to face it’s just feel crazy now..

I don't want to make things worse for myself anymore..
Need to be back to life again and provide for my family plus lift weights and be a beast again like years back..

I don't know where to go and what to do at all I am that desperate I might just wait outside the gym and ask someone for direction to find a good source..

Massively low testosterone levels...fck my testosterone levels had been no higher than 1.7nmol for over 2 years and it took regular blood tests to be prescribed TRT treatment through NHS endocrinologist...
Using testavan gel dosed at 23mg daily and it's shit, as for viogen, recently got back to training myself after over 3 years off through illness, the viogen dbol 50mg was good, sustanon was spot on and just started the deca 300mg, but found someone with evolve biolabs, told me it was quality, switch from viogen to evolve, and tho it seems to have decent amounts of gear in it, i switched from viogen dbol 50mg daily to evolve biolabs dbol 10mg tablets and took 8 today and 80mg doesn't seem equivalent to 50mg viogen....i used to love alpha pharma..wtf happened to them?? Uk dimensions labs was great but my source said he suddenly disappeared...hopefully your doing better since these comments you made, as for evolve biolabs, i bought 400 dbol, 40ml test e , 30ml deca and 100 anavar and now im seeing the posts about it, its looking like its underdosed...hopefully not too much...
One video on YouTube said the 10mg dbol was tested and the result was 8mg, and one test on here shows the 10mg var being 7mg ...not great but i can deal with that lol

 

[CaptainRex501]

I deleted an old account but I’ve been using two sources on here for a while. One I stand by is the greatest source there ever was an every will be, and the other is fine (a little overpriced, and some of his stuff is pippy, but it’s legit). Unfortunately, source 1 is out of almost everything and has some other staff going on. I personally plan to find another source before my next cycle if source 1 isn’t recovered or stocked back up (why I’m back in the forums).

You know the saying trust but verify? Look at the sellers in the underground and see what people are saying about them. When you find one you think is good - make a small order and send it in for blind testing with Jano. Most sellers will credit you for that anyway. Then you have peace of mind moving forward and a new trusted source.