Help Reading My Bloodwork

[Equinob]

i got my pre-cycle bloods done at a different lab and I’m confused about how to compare them to my post-PCT labs.

Here’s my Test from the pre-cycle:

Testosterone, 300 - 890 ng/dL — 744
Testosterone, Bioavailable 131 - 682 ng/dL — 189
Testosterone, Free Calculation 47 - 244 pg/mL — 61
Testosterone, Percentage Free 1.6 - 2.9 % — 0.8

Here’s my test from my post-PCT: (the second panel isn’t as comprehensive)

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MALES (ADULT), IA
Reference Range: 250-827 ng/dL — 289

Clearly I’m looking at different scales. Most of my pre-cycle numbers look like they are on the low end of the reference average range, except the first Test @744 — I assume that is the Total, which then measures up to my post PCT Total Test. If that’s so, then my current Test @289 seems like it’s seriously low compared to my pre-cycle levels.

My doctors have said these numbers are all normal.

The rest of my current levels are as follow:

Estrogen Total serum 72.6 pg/ml
FSH 6.8 mIU/ml
Estradiol 36 pg/ml

 

[Mac11wildcat]

That 290 may be in the “normal” range but that could be pretty clear evidence your PCT didn’t fully get you back functioning.

What’s the timing here? How long was PCT and when was the last test taken in relation to PCT finish?

 

[fershiz85]

What was your PCT protocol? Lay out the cycle you ran, timing of when you started PCT, length of PCT, etc...

Give us something to work with other than bloodwork and that'll help answer some of your questions.

 

[Equinob]

So I did 12 weeks. 600 Test Cyp only for 12 weeks. Hcg 250iu 2x week throughout. Did Aromasin for the first 6 weeks, then switched to Arimadex for the last 6 to control estrogen sides (both eod). At week 6 I added Tren Ace eod. At week 10 I added Anavar 50mg/day. Finished Tren and Test in week 12, and ended hcg, but stayed on Var 2 more weeks.

Then a week after I ended Var I started PCT of Nolvadex only 100mg day 1, 7 days at 50mg, 7 days at 25mg. Concerned about my progress, and doing an accelerated Nolva PCT, I did one more week of Clomid. After that I waited 2-3 weeks to get my bloods after ending the Clomid.

 

[Equinob]

A bit more info. I’m mid-40s. My PCT was Nolva at 100mg/day 1, 50mg/day 2-11, 25mg/day 12-22. I took a rest for a week, then did a week of Clomid at 50mg/day for a week. Then stopped for two weeks before my bloods. This is my 5th cycle in 8 years. My first using Tren. Previously I did Cyp, Cyp/Decca/Var, Cyp/T2, Test E.

 

[Equinob]

I wish I could edit. Tren Ace eod at 50mg (so 200mg/week) for last 6 weeks (7-12).

1-12 Test Cyp 600mg/week
7-12 Tren Ace 200mg/week
10-14 Anavar 350mg/week
1-6 hcg 500iu/week
7-12 hcg1000iu/week
1-6 arimidex 1mg ed
7-12 aromasin 12.5mg Ed
7-12 dostinex .5mg 2x/week

PCT
15-17 Nolva 100mgx1 day/50mgx10 days/25mgx10 days
15-17 aromasin 12.5mg Ed
18 off
19 Clomid 50mg x 10 days

20-21 off
22 bloodwork done

 

[Equinob]

I wish I could edit. Tren Ace eod at 50mg (so 200mg/week) for last 6 weeks (7-12).

1-12 Test Cyp 600mg/week
7-12 Tren Ace 200mg/week
10-14 Anavar 350mg/week
1-6 hcg 500iu/week
7-12 hcg1000iu/week
1-6 arimidex
7-12 aromasin
7-12 dostinex

PCT
15-17 Nolva 100mgx1 day/50mgx10 days/25mgx10 days
19 Clomid 50mg x 10 days

 

[Equinob]

Still looking for help understanding these test results. Thanks.

 

[TAKESHI]

why did you try to get cute with your pct? Was it pharma? I would have done at least 5 weeks with nolva and clomid consistently.

 

[The Terminator]

Pretty clear, you’re T dropped significantly cause you likely haven’t yet recovered fully. You can either wait a bit and recover naturally or you can try another pct that isn’t rushed.

 

[Equinob]

why did you try to get cute with your pct? Was it pharma? I would have done at least 5 weeks with nolva and clomid consistently.

i didn’t try to get cute, just followed different advice this time. And from what I read most are recommending to only do Nolva these days

 

[Equinob]

Pretty clear, you’re T dropped significantly cause you likely haven’t yet recovered fully. You can either wait a bit and recover naturally or you can try another pct that isn’t rushed.

my doc is running another panel to see if my T has increased. He confirmed my LH was fully restored so I did recover, and feel good about starting another cycle. The low-T is still a question tho, and my estrogen a bit high. Definitely don’t plan to cut corners on my PCT again. But I will still likely only do Nolva based on what I’ve been reading. My doc suggested after my PCT I could take an AI to keep my E2 in check and boost Test. But we will see.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Fucking hilarious.

 

[The Terminator]

my doc is running another panel to see if my T has increased. He confirmed my LH was fully restored so I did recover, and feel good about starting another cycle. The low-T is still a question tho, and my estrogen a bit high. Definitely don’t plan to cut corners on my PCT again. But I will still likely only do Nolva based on what I’ve been reading. My doc suggested after my PCT I could take an AI to keep my E2 in check and boost Test. But we will see.

Doesn’t look like your nutz recovered yet tho. If you’re happy with your numbers and feel good that’s all that really matters.

 

[Sworder]

i didn’t try to get cute, just followed different advice this time. And from what I read most are recommending to only do Nolva these days

Your plan for the PCT doesn't make sense. Can you explain the logic or were you just following somebody's advice blindly?

I know this is a bit late to say, but you probably should have asked for help before starting this less than optimal plan...

 

[SaneDog]

It seems your blood is pretty average.