Help with pct after years on gear..

[Juicedhead]

Hey guys, so I’m 30. Been blasting and cruising gear for over 5 years and haven’t done a pct in that time. Just always on cycle or on 250mg test a week. My balls are very small and completely shut down I think my dick has even gotten smaller.. I don’t even feel like a man right now to be honest I can’t do this anymore I need to try and get my balls back. So I’m going to be doing this pct that I found online can anyone tell me if this is the best option?

two weeks after last shot of sustanon
2000iu hcg eod for 20 days
Clomid 100mg a day for 30 days
Nolva 40mg a day for 45 days

thanks guys

 

[kosp]

ask @BirdieNumNum for his Extreme-Power-PCT program.

 

[Forthewin1123]

Hey guys, so I’m 30. Been blasting and cruising gear for over 5 years and haven’t done a pct in that time. Just always on cycle or on 250mg test a week. My balls are very small and completely shut down I think my dick has even gotten smaller.. I don’t even feel like a man right now to be honest I can’t do this anymore I need to try and get my balls back. So I’m going to be doing this pct that I found online can anyone tell me if this is the best option?

two weeks after last shot of sustanon
2000iu hcg eod for 20 days
Clomid 100mg a day for 30 days
Nolva 40mg a day for 45 days

thanks guys

I hope this goes well for you.. I really do. You may see where some say to start hcg before last injection..slowly get things working before you cut out test.
If you struggle not restart your nuts.. trt may be something needed and with low dose hcg may may give you some ball fullness back .. I run low dose hcg.. keeps my balls a little fuller and u swear it keeps my dick more sensitive..
Goodluck man.. I commend you for making this decision.. it's hard to stop completely once go that long and build a physique.. this is what I wish was talked about.more to young guns..it's not addictive like a drug.. it's the results that seem mentally addictive.. we don't wanna lose muscle or that recovery

 

[Juicedhead]

I hope this goes well for you.. I really do. You may see where some say to start hcg before last injection..slowly get things working before you cut out test.
If you struggle not restart your nuts.. trt may be something needed and with low dose hcg may may give you some ball fullness back .. I run low dose hcg.. keeps my balls a little fuller and u swear it keeps my dick more sensitive..
Goodluck man.. I commend you for making this decision.. it's hard to stop completely once go that long and build a physique.. this is what I wish was talked about.more to young guns..it's not addictive like a drug.. it's the results that seem mentally addictive.. we don't wanna lose muscle or that recovery

Me too man.. If anything I want to get Hpta restarted and stay completely off for at least 8 weeks get blood drawn and see where I’m at. If I need permanent trt I will use hcg alongside to keep some size. I agree steroids are very addictive but it’s just in a different way and it’s a mind fuck. I have a lot of primo I’ve heard of guys using primo low doses along side hcg instead of test for cycles. We’lol see. I’m just considered on getting everything working again before I decide what to do.

 

[Juicedhead]

I’ve been reading you can use hcg up to 8 weeks at 2000iu eod. I might do 8 weeks of hcg depending on how it goes.. want to give myself the best chance possible to maybe recover fully. If I need to blast hcg for a couple weeks every once in a while I can do that as well.

 

[Forthewin1123]

Me too man.. If anything I want to get Hpta restarted and stay completely off for at least 8 weeks get blood drawn and see where I’m at. If I need permanent trt I will use hcg alongside to keep some size. I agree steroids are very addictive but it’s just in a different way and it’s a mind fuck. I have a lot of primo I’ve heard of guys using primo low doses along side hcg instead of test for cycles. We’lol see. I’m just considered on getting everything working again before I decide what to do.

You got it right man.. maybe you come back at 200-300ng maybe 500ng and be fine with no trt at all.. but your right to give yourself enough time to see how your doing .. I've read were ppl use hcg alone/with small amount of ai to increase test in blood levels.. I wish you all the luck!! Keep us updated.. I myself will be going strictly trt 100-200wk whatever gets me 800-1kng/dl in a few years..

 

[Demondosage]

First off, if you plan on using that much HCG be prepared to start growing tits if you aren’t using a good whack of Adex with it. Second off, you are wasting your time trying to do any sort of recovery after 5 years on. Plan on TRT

 

[Juicedhead]

First off, if you plan on using that much HCG be prepared to start growing tits if you aren’t using a good whack of Adex with it. Second off, you are wasting your time trying to do any sort of recovery after 5 years on. Plan on TRT

I’m going to try. At least get some ball size back and then when I start back on trt I’ll keep the hcg in there. And genetics plays a role in how well you recover from gear and what your pre gear test levels were also plays a role bro ur a negative fuck leave.

 

[Demondosage]

I’m going to try. At least get some ball size back and then when I start back on trt I’ll keep the hcg in there. And genetics plays a role in how well you recover from gear and what your pre gear test levels were also plays a role bro ur a negative fuck leave.

I’m just trying to save you from a life of agony, no sex life, brain fog, and acting like a bitch in situations where it would benefit you to have some testosterone. Best of luck though, and don’t forget to let us know how it goes after your life falls apart from trying to get blood from a stone

 

[Demondosage]

But seriously, I hope you recover just fine and that your life does not fall apart. Best of luck to you

 

[Juicedhead]

I’m just trying to save you from a life of agony, no sex life, brain fog, and acting like a bitch in situations where it would benefit you to have some testosterone. Best of luck though, and don’t forget to let us know how it goes after your life falls apart from trying to get blood from a stone

Then say that don’t say what you said there’s plenty of people who cycle for 5 years and recover if I don’t recover then I’ll get on trt again but I have to try at this point I’m not going to not try when I have everything I need on hand and am off work for 2 months. I’m not expecting to be able to produce naturally for the rest of my life but I do want to get everything going again even if it’s for a couple months. If I need trt then it is what it is I’ll accept that but I will be using hcg. My main concern right now is testicle size they have never been this small before and I don’t like that feeling having small balls so I have to get some size back.

 

[Henchus maximus98736]

ask @BirdieNumNum for his Extreme-Power-PCT program.

Legend

 

[limitphobic]

You got this bro! go for it! You ain’t gunna die from taking a break from some test. Who knows, maybe less test will make you more attractive to women (what with being in touch with emotions and shit like that). Seriously, I like the way the world treats me when I’m on, and I like the way I treat the world when I’m off. It’s authentic. So go for it bro! And keep us updated

 

[Juicedhead]

You got this bro! go for it! You ain’t gunna die from taking a break from some test. Who knows, maybe less test will make you more attractive to women (what with being in touch with emotions and shit like that). Seriously, I like the way the world treats me when I’m on, and I like the way I treat the world when I’m off. It’s authentic. So go for it bro! And keep us updated

I’m back on test prop. My hcg still haven’t arrived and I couldn’t wait any longer since it had been almost 4 weeks since my last shot. Idk when the hcg will get here but I’m going to go back on for the time being. Just being off my balls gained back some size so it’s not that bad anymore. Fucked this 22 year old girl the other night and she loved it so I think it was kind of In my head mostly about the ball size being such a problem.

 

[limitphobic]

I’m back on test prop. My hcg still haven’t arrived and I couldn’t wait any longer since it had been almost 4 weeks since my last shot. Idk when the hcg will get here but I’m going to go back on for the time being. Just being off my balls gained back some size so it’s not that bad anymore. Fucked this 22 year old girl the other night and she loved it so I think it was kind of In my head mostly about the ball size being such a problem.

yeah I feel that 22 y/o’s are a fun ride (if they know what they’re doing yet ) no judgement here brother just get that hcg and run it. Even if you run it while cruising it should help a fair amount, just not 100%.

 

[Juicedhead]

yeah I feel that 22 y/o’s are a fun ride (if they know what they’re doing yet ) no judgement here brother just get that hcg and run it. Even if you run it while cruising it should help a fair amount, just not 100%.

Yea I’m going to run a cycle actually fuck it I have a bunch of gear might as well use it haha

 

[Demondosage]

Damn, that didn’t take long. What happened man, did you start feeling like garbage without test?

 

[DaviBerserker]

Know that the leyding cells in your testes are desensitized, your body is in a hypogonadal state for sure! It's going to be really hard for you to get a recovery answer, imo. I recommend TRT, go to TRT, don't stop anything because it's too late!

 

[Villain]

ask @BirdieNumNum for his Extreme-Power-PCT program.

I didn’t realize he changed his name, because I was just looking for his thread.

 

[DaviBerserker]

If you were using HCG every cycle for those 5 years, you wouldn't be racking your brains over it bro! Most people brutally suppress the HPTA and then want to get it back, baah madness! Not even a pct hcg power works when your leyding cells have been desensitized for years with no response to natural LH! Oh David and if I do hcg pct? Waste of time ! HCG is more suppressive. HCG in pct potency does the same thing as AAS, suppressing LH in the cycle! We know HCG is exogenous LH, this is not beneficial for a pct therapy, you would just be confusing the hypothalamus, it would think: Baah, I'm getting tons of HCG coming from an outside source, why the hell should I go back to natural production? It is best to always take 250ui 2x per week while still on cycle to maintain response. There are far better studies on the benefits of clomiphene citrate for male fertility and recovery.