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telewacker

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53 years old, natty T is 917. My first cycle, 12 weeks 500mg Test C, weeks 9-12 40 mg Anavar. 5 weeks in T measured at 4700 ng/dl. 18 days after last pin T is still 2270! I was going to start PCT today (day 21) but obviously my number is still too high. How do I figure this out?!
 
Anybody? I'm confused how my T levels only dropped 50% in two and a half weeks, and how to determine when I'll be back to natty or slightly below without frequent $100 blood tests.
 
Test active life/half life. Bloods would be the only way to check. If you dont want to do test why not just wait another 2 wks? Would that not decrease by another 50% or less than that would put you pretty close to your natural t level where you could start pct.
 
high-octane said:
Test active life/half life. Bloods would be the only way to check. If you dont want to do test why not just wait another 2 wks? Would that not decrease by another 50% or less than that would put you pretty close to your natural t level where you could start pct.
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That sounds reasonable I guess. I'm used to hearing 21 days after last pin for Test C but obviously in my case that isn't a sufficient amount of time to get my T down.
 
Another question...how much does HCG skew results? I took 5000 iu during the last four weeks of my cycle, another 5000 after my cycle over two weeks, and am now taking 500 iu EOD. I have the requisition in hand for another blood test (total T up to 1500 dl/ng) trying to time it so I take it when I'm below 1500 and with the three days it takes to get the results be close to my natty levels.
 
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So if my T dropped roughly 50% in 18 days 4700 to 2270 is it reasonable to assume it would be about 1100 in another 18 days? Unless of course the HCG is a factor.
 
Ok. Last pin was March 23 and April 24 I was down to 1160 NG/DL. Natty is 917 so I'll wait a few days and start PCT. Sound about right? That makes it five weeks which seems like a long time for Test C to clear at 500mg per week but I guess everyone's different.

Also since I've been taking HCG and the balls are normal size can I take the lower dose of Clomid @ 50, Nolva @ 20 instead of twice that for the first week or two?
 
HCG will skew your test results/make them higher. After wk4 you should be able to start pct no problem like Eman said.
 
Docd187123 said:
HCG will skew your test results/make them higher. After wk4 you should be able to start pct no problem like Eman said.
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Isn't total T the benchmark for when to start PCT? If HCG raises T then wouldn't you wait a little longer to give T to drop to natty level?
 
telewacker said:
Isn't total T the benchmark for when to start PCT? If HCG raises T then wouldn't you wait a little longer to give T to drop to natty level?
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When TT levels are too high due to exogenous test use, yes, you need to wait for it to go down enough for the SERMs to start working bc LH hasn't been produced by the body for so long the leydig cells in the testes become somewhat unresponsive to it.

With HCG, the need to wait is almost negated bc HCG causes the body to produce test and this test metabolizes and is excreted very quickly due to there being no ester attached to it.

edit* the half life of test, including free/bio/SHBG bound test, is less than an hour. Again, this is bc there is no ester attached to test produced by the body to slow its pharmacokinetics.
 
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According to my calculations today my T should be 800 and below my 917 natty level so I started PCT. I'm going with the 100/40, 100/40, 50/20, 50/20 for now. How long before I should start to feel the effects Clomid and Nolva?
 
i dont feel anything persay. but my sex drive starts to come back by the third week and i start to feel better, better attitude, etc...
 
AIRBORNE DADDY said:
i dont feel anything persay. but my sex drive starts to come back by the third week and i start to feel better, better attitude, etc...
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I'm a week in. I don't really feel anything and still have my normal (high) libido. I'm going to take bloods every two weeks just to learn about my body's reaction to the process.
 
telewacker said:
I'm a week in. I don't really feel anything and still have my normal (high) libido. I'm going to take bloods every two weeks just to learn about my body's reaction to the process.
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yeah i finish pct this weekend and will get bloods but not for another month tho i should n ow....anyway 1st werk felt fine after two weeks realized i didnt have sex or jack off in four days which is insane for me...end of week three spanking and chasing my girl around again....they say that means nothing but its a welcome sign for me...
 
AIRBORNE DADDY said:
yeah i finish pct this weekend and will get bloods but not for another month tho i should n ow....anyway 1st werk felt fine after two weeks realized i didnt have sex or jack off in four days which is insane for me...end of week three spanking and chasing my girl around again....they say that means nothing but its a welcome sign for me...
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If you don't mind me asking what was your cycle and PCT protocol?
 
lets see...14weeks...250teste and 300 tren e total a week for about 6 or7 weeks (i was just trying tren n ran out ) then another 5weeks of 500 test e and 2 weeks test prop to finish while the e started to clear...started pct like 8 days after the prop (22 after test e) ....clomid at 100 for 2 weeks with 40mg nolva....then halved that last two weeks 50 and 20....im driving and dates are on my calendar but thats the gist
 
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