Here's my understanding of what we know about hair-safe(ish) protocols. Am I wrong or did I miss anything?

[Bigguy81]

0.5mg.

Thanks brother. I appreciate that..

 

[TheDieselZ]

Topical minoxidil daily + once weekly micro needling

you can look it up, there are studies (I've posted some here)

Aware me on microneedling. What is this.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Aware me on microneedling. What is this.

Once weekly microneedling has a big effect on improving the effects of rogaine

search "microneedling" and my username, I posted some studies and a link to protocols and the pen I use by Dr Pen (that's the company)

 

[TheDieselZ]

Once weekly microneedling has a big effect on improving the effects of rogaine

search "microneedling" and my username, I posted some studies and a link to protocols and the pen I use by Dr Pen (that's the company)

Is this what you use?

Dr. Pen A8S Ultima Pro Microneedling Pen

Shop the Dr. Pen A8S Ultima Pro Microneedling Pen for advanced skin treatment. Achieve youthful and glowing skin with this powerful microneedling pen.

drpenonline.com

 

[AlexDavis43]

Is this what you use?

Dr. Pen A8S Ultima Pro Microneedling Pen

Shop the Dr. Pen A8S Ultima Pro Microneedling Pen for advanced skin treatment. Achieve youthful and glowing skin with this powerful microneedling pen.

drpenonline.com

that's not the exact model but it looks like you can adjust the depth, so looks good

 

[adrenalytic]

I've yet to find a steroid that touches my hair. Is this normal or are you guys the norm?

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

that's not the exact model but it looks like you can adjust the depth, so looks good

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i have a A6 dermapen but lately i just use a dermastamp 1/1.5mm the same as with the pen
sometimes i apply minox after microneedle...

 

[JK1]

1. Testosterone only with dutasteride (or finasteride). Testostereone reduces to DHT, which is one of the main causes of baldness. The dutasteride blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Of course, dutasteride comes with some undesirable side effects (e.g., ED, depression, etc.). But, I am focused only on hair here.


i dont reccomend this, ive done it personally

Curious what was your experience with this? Assuming that when you nuked your DHT hard while running test high you got brain/mood /genital sides?

 

[Liter O' Test]

Curious what was your experience with this? Assuming that when you nuked your DHT hard while running test high you got brain/mood /genital sides?

yeah i think even if serum DHT isn't nuked, just supressed, its supressing DHT in important regions, i read something about it a while back. hard for me to say because i had other factors like potentially low estrogen. no way to know for sure but there is some truth in the anti fin/dut crowd.

 

[JK1]

yeah i think even if serum DHT isn't nuked, just supressed, its supressing DHT in important regions, i read something about it a while back. hard for me to say because i had other factors like potentially low estrogen. no way to know for sure but there is some truth in the anti fin/dut crowd.

I dont doubt it. There will absolutely be a price to pay for reducing DHT although as usual people react differently. You only have to scratch the surface on DHT and its role in the brain.

I currently take dut and accept the tradeoff for now. Although id say when mood / mental states are changed gradually over time it's hard to have a reference point of what was normal.

 

[Jax Reaper]

So, from what I can tell, there's no guaranteed hair-safe cycle. But, from what I can tell, there are two established protocols that seem to in some sense be "hair safe-ish".

1. Testosterone only with dutasteride (or finasteride). Testostereone reduces to DHT, which is one of the main causes of baldness. The dutasteride blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Of course, dutasteride comes with some undesirable side effects (e.g., ED, depression, etc.). But, I am focused only on hair here.

2. Deca only. Obviously, there are a myriad of reasons to not do a Deca only cycle. However, from a hair-loss perspective, a Deca only cycle will not likely lead to hair loss, as Deca reduces to DHN, which is a weaker androgen than DHT.

Other than options 1 and 2 above, it seems we don't really know much. If you add other steroids to testosterone (e.g., deca, mast, primo), the dustasteride could actually result in MORE hair loss than if you did not use dusateride.

Do I have that right?

Are there any hair-protective ancillaries that I can use that are helpful no matter what my steroid stack uses?

Don’t crash your estrogen either and your hair will hopefully stay thick