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"I keep getting older but the girls always stay the same age".
My nose got a lot wider from growth. Ive taken everything from serostim, hyg, opti etc. my face has changed through the years but I'm not sure how much of that has to do with age and carrying a lower body fat or from the gh. either way I like the way I look now better. I was a powerlifter so I was always bloated. My front teeth started gapping the first few years on growth but I had also started using a cpap and I started clenching my teeth when I was sleeping so that may have had something to do with the teeth. But for sure my nose got wider. I think your cheek bones widening would be a good thing as long as your jaw or jaw muscles are growing too.Hey guys. I’m here because honestly i’m confused on what the heck happened to me. I was literally facially normal not even a couple months ago, and I ran a cycle of high for 4 months 2 months before this and i was mostly fine at least I thought… Anyways i’ve been running HGH at like 4IUS maybe… or even less with some alpha gpc and some ghrp6 for the hunger spike. Literally in January as of Jan 20th I had to stop because my nose literally got wider and bigger… My cheekbones have literally grown and are protruding out and my face is still so bloated even 2.2 months after stopping everything. My face looks incredibly different and i’m having so much trouble believing 7-8 months of hgh and peptides total (CJC w dac, hgh, etc) has completely changed my face this much. My nose is incredibly fleshly, my cheekbones are wider and make me look incredibly weird and my face is still bloated 2 months after. Starting to wish I didn’t get into any of this stuff and I regret ever touching growth hormone or growth secro peptides. What the heck. Starting to think Alpha gpc might be the problem when I was using because apparently it lowers GH somatostatin so it inhibits your body from regulating your IGF1 to normal levels. I also took some MSM but in low doses like 1g but that was it. So can someone please try and help me figure out what happened??? Will my face go back to normal??? it’s been over 2 months and i still look like this. Im 20. can someone PM me on discord and help me out here. this is actually completely destroying my confidence horribly because i was a decent looking guy and not ugly but now Im literally pretty unattractive and i don’t know what to do. Im not the tallest and not the biggest but I wanted to put on some muscle and i ended up completely ruining my face so can someone please help me figure out what’s going on or share their own experiences with GH? I think i got overdosed growth hormone. I was buying it from Opti on mesorx black tops and got some yellow tinted reconstituted hgh and ever since then ive noticed my entire face has changed after I injected that hgh. It had a ywlloish tint to it and i contacted them and they said it was just because of the uv lamp or whatever and it was tested and good to go but clearly something is wrong. Fuck man. Can anyone please help me figure out what happened? I highly doubt my IGF was over 600.
My nose got a lot wider from growth. Ive taken everything from serostim, hyg, opti etc. my face has changed through the years but I'm not sure how much of that has to do with age and carrying a lower body fat or from the gh. either way I like the way I look now better. I was a powerlifter so I was always bloated. My front teeth started gapping the first few years on growth but I had also started using a cpap and I started clenching my teeth when I was sleeping so that may have had something to do with the teeth. But for sure my nose got wider. I think your cheek bones widening would be a good thing as long as your jaw or jaw muscles are growing too.
dude you don’t understand. MY BASELINE IGF1 IS 53No offense, but taking HGH and:
- some alpha gpc
- some ghrp6 (a Growth hormone releasing peptide)
- CJC w dac (a Growth hormone releasing peptide)
- some MSM
...is fucking stupid for anyone, including body builders.
When you take exogenous growth (or exogenous hormones), you suppress your natural hormone production.
When you add CJC and GHRP-6, which BOTH restores and increases your natural growth hormone through different methods, you are likely getting way more growth hormone running through you than if you just stuck to HGH.
Most people here suggest doing HGH by itself, and not bothering with the peptides.
You may have even taken too much growth and/or peptides by improperly calculating the values. How did you calculate it? How much ml of bacteriostatic water did you add to each vial? What is the advertised peptide and HGH mg/iu PER bottle? How much did you inject on the slin pins (insulin syringes)?
You also fucked up by not getting IGF-1 testing. Let's say CJC and GHRP6 gave you 600 ng/ml together. Well, with 4 iu of HGH, you may get another 600 or so. So you're at 1200+ ng/ml, which means acromegaly EASILY. 3iu gives me 439 ng/ml.
In fact, the average patient with Acromegaly has IGF-1 levels of 904 ng/mL!
Another factor is a possible pituitary adenoma, which will produce SHITLOADS of IGF-1 regardless of exogenous administration, which would significantly increase your circulating levels.
I hope you stay on the forums and listen to us. This is a harm reduction board, and many of us try to be 100% straight with you to avoid harming yourself.
Your first order of business:
1. Get off growth and all peptides for 72 hours, then get an IGF-1 test.
2. If your IGF-1 levels are greater than 400 after 72 hours, go back to your doctor and tell them you think you may need a Cat Scan / MRI to check for a pituitary adenoma.
3. Don't take shit without heavy research.
4. Don't be afraid to ask questions... better safe than sorry.
1. Idk could be biggerOP, don't take this the wrong way... and in fact, you can feel free to DM me to keep it private, but can you answer these questions for me?
1) Do you have a small penis and testicles?
2) Do you have trouble smelling?
3) Did you grow in height at all on HGH?
4) Do you have gyno (bitch tits)?
5) Can you DM me your unredacted face before and after pics? I will delete them after looking at them. NO worries if you can't.
You should be finished growing by 20. If you aren't, you very likely had a delayed puberty.
If that's the case, you can likely fix your small penis and testicles with TRT + HCG, but you should ABSOLUTELY see a doctor / endocrinologist.
also my skin and shit is so much worse after this like i aged 3 yearsNo offense, but taking HGH and:
- some alpha gpc
- some ghrp6 (a Growth hormone releasing peptide)
- CJC w dac (a Growth hormone releasing peptide)
- some MSM
...is fucking stupid for anyone, including body builders.
When you take exogenous growth (or exogenous hormones), you suppress your natural hormone production.
When you add CJC and GHRP-6, which BOTH restores and increases your natural growth hormone through different methods, you are likely getting way more growth hormone running through you than if you just stuck to HGH.
Most people here suggest doing HGH by itself, and not bothering with the peptides.
You may have even taken too much growth and/or peptides by improperly calculating the values. How did you calculate it? How much ml of bacteriostatic water did you add to each vial? What is the advertised peptide and HGH mg/iu PER bottle? How much did you inject on the slin pins (insulin syringes)?
You also fucked up by not getting IGF-1 testing. Let's say CJC and GHRP6 gave you 600 ng/ml together. Well, with 4 iu of HGH, you may get another 600 or so. So you're at 1200+ ng/ml, which means acromegaly EASILY. 3iu gives me 439 ng/ml.
In fact, the average patient with Acromegaly has IGF-1 levels of 904 ng/mL!
Another factor is a possible pituitary adenoma, which will produce SHITLOADS of IGF-1 regardless of exogenous administration, which would significantly increase your circulating levels.
I hope you stay on the forums and listen to us. This is a harm reduction board, and many of us try to be 100% straight with you to avoid harming yourself.
Your first order of business:
1. Get off growth and all peptides for 72 hours, then get an IGF-1 test.
2. If your IGF-1 levels are greater than 400 after 72 hours, go back to your doctor and tell them you think you may need a Cat Scan / MRI to check for a pituitary adenoma.
3. Don't take shit without heavy research.
4. Don't be afraid to ask questions... better safe than sorry.
So is mine.dude you don’t understand. MY BASELINE IGF1 IS 53
Yes, you should see a doctor, and re-read my post because you obviously skimmed it over and gleaned nothing. Let me know if I need to ELI5 it for you.1. Idk could be bigger
2. Dude I was finishing growing my bone age was done. My baseline IGF1 was literally 53 I was deficient for some reason severely at 20.
3. it was just my face that changed really nothing else that i notice.
4. My test baseline levels could be higher.
5. Could it be my body is undeveloped and has defficencies? I’m not short but not the tallest. this makes me wonder if i should see a doctor, and get a DXA to measure bone density and what not. This is scary, maybe im just underdeveloped and that’s why my face changed so much? My body was used to having such low levels of IGF1, when i put a bunch of shi on it into a high normal level it didn’t know what to do with it. Idk if ill mess with TRT and hcg but clearly my body is still developing somewhat in other areas if hgh changed my face that much in only 7-8 months because there are people who run 12IUS for a year and have 0 changes. So if I run TRT+HCG clearly something in my body is going to grow.
If/since you can't change your face, just get swolenothing you can do now but keep lifting, make some gains, and try to un-ugly yourself OP
That face with some fucking guns will KILL it.If/since you can't change your face, just get swole
nothing happened to my handsToo late now he's gone full Joe "ape" Rogan.
Probably can't even use the controller with those big thick primate hands.
Nobody told him to wear a ring so he'd know when his fingers were getting too big and to stop the hgh.
If it makes you feel any better OP I did experience signs of facial structure changes while on the same tinted yellowish black tops you are using. I don’t give a fuck about a little acromalgy, though, so I am still running it and have like 30 more kits of them to run through. I’m using a good bit more than you were, though. I’m doing 13iu a daynothing happened to my hands
I hit a secondary growth phase when I was 21, my dude. I got almost a full inch taller, feet grew a shoe size, arms and legs got thicker, hair changed texture and color, privates got more impressive (at least to me haha). I had thought I was done growing, but my family doc told me boys/men keep growing and developing until 25-26 in various ways. Some more obvious, some more subtle.i’m literally almost 21 years old. There is no growth plates open in my body. i’m an adult male lol… and i was using GH only while working out bulking a lot trying to use it for hyperplasia and lose some BF. I didn’t really lose BF though. listen man all i know is this stuff shouldn’t have happened to me, and this stuff isn’t normal.
I would buy your biography tomorrow if you wrote it. I'm over 50 and just looking at trt.You do understand WHAT GH is in the body... right???
Just about all other hormones are triggered by GH, it is one of the peak triggers in the bodies hormonal process... I don't think you quite understand just how powerful it actually is!
And then peptides.... You literally messing with specific triggers in that process! Again, that can be incredibly powerful in both positive and negative ways!
Why TF are people scared of Test and AAS.... Got well over 60yrs REAL WORLD high dose use and its very understood and hard to fuck up real bad on the stuff... But for some batshit crazy reason, there seems to be a younger generation who think avoiding AAS is good and instead, directly fuck with switches in the body (Peptide use) that has very little real world long term use and people don't really understand the long term costs (yet).
You understand the medical literature looks at the MEAN of data sets right.... There are outlier's in EVERYTHING! So for bone plate closure, there might be cases where it happens at 10yrs old..... Just like there might be cases where bone plates are still open at 25yrs old....
It shouldn't have happened.... yet it HAS!
Instead of taking responsibility for your actions, you're in here trying to blame the brand of HGH that you used as being "overdosed".... Yet everyone else who used that exact same batch of HGH hasn't reported ANY issues at all with it!
Even IF it was overdosed.... You think it would cause THIS in anyone else? Where are the cases??
I'm currently on 14iu/d.... I'm not getting sides like this. Been on 7 days a week since Nov 23.
My best mate just started, EXACT same batch of HGH as me, 4wks in, steps up to 4iu/d and gets crippling carpal tunnel!
The problem is YOU! There is something in YOU that reacts DIFFERENTLY to extra HGH!
From what I know, the only thing that fits is your bone plates were still in their growth stage. I'm not an expert though, you need to see a specialist!
Did research... Doses SHOULD NOT have caused this..... OK, expert.
I took doses from experienced people off this forum.... So you read what other people were doing and it worked for them and thought, Fuck it, just send it!.... What ever could go wrong!
Talked to people before I ran anything, all said everything you were doing was fine (because they were basing it on THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE) and told you that it won't result in any side effects or extreme sides at all (because they were basing it on THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE)... So, SEND IT!
So, after all that in depth process you carried out, here you are....
FFS, Acromegaly is THE most widely known risk of using HGH! You just thought it was a risk that wouldn't affect YOU!
I'm literally getting a retainer made to wear at night so as to limit teeth movement from the HGH.... I take it as a GIVEN that there will be sides from taking HGH, I expect my hands, feet, nose, ears, chin to grow!
Its GROWTH hormone FFS, says it right in its name! They didn't try to hide what it does!
and they accept the RISKS of doing so!
I juiced HARD during my 20's, smashed DNP, T3, OD'd once after licking my finger after a Clen brew and ended up in the backyard at 11pm throwing up blood and had a mild heart attack, took to much diuretic the night before a show and ended up in a hotel bathtub in ABSOLUTE AGONY as every single muscle and what felt like internal organ cramped for HOURS! Fuck me, I wanted to end my own life that night, just to stop the god damn PAIN! I still have cramping problems to this day whenever I sweat to much, deep agonizing cramps in a muscle will hit that will drop me to the ground and I can't move until I can get some magnesium powder into me... I carry it with me EVERYWHERE!... My whole 20's, I KNEW beyond doubt that I wasn't going to live passed 35yrs, I'd dreamt it so many times and I was 100% down with that in chasing after my dream!
I knew the risks of what I had signed up for and if that's what came due, I was willing to pay the price! I took what precautions I could, I researched a LOT, every single day I'd put in hours of research to understand how to minimize risks (We were in the era of Guinee pigging shit then self reporting in the forums, a LOT of trial and error, we didn't have the same access to science as there is today - which is fantastic to see happen!)
Look at that influencer that was ripped AF, died last year! Paid the fuckin PRICE!
Lots of others have paid the price over the years as well..... There is ALWAYS risk with this! ALWAYS! The best you can ever do is try to minimize and control those risks but they ALWAYS remain in the background!
My nose got a lot wider from growth. Ive taken everything from serostim, hyg, opti etc. my face has changed through the years but I'm not sure how much of that has to do with age and carrying a lower body fat or from the gh. either way I like the way I look now better. I was a powerlifter so I was always bloated. My front teeth started gapping the first few years on growth but I had also started using a cpap and I started clenching my teeth when I was sleeping so that may have had something to do with the teeth. But for sure my nose got wider. I think your cheek bones widening would be a good thing as long as your jaw or jaw muscles are growing too.