HGH - first time, lil help?

[Megadick3000]

So just got my first -supposed- hgh. They are generic from one of my chinamen. Paid 80 cents an iu, 10iu per vial. Green tops.

Did some research just wanna make sure i got it right.

1) i can recon with 1ml of Bac water per vial and ill get 1iu of the gh in every 10iu on a slin pin, correct?

2) can i recon wirh just 0.5ml of bac for a 10iu vial? Or will it take more liquid?

3) this should all be kept in the fridge, correct? Both recon and lyo?

4) assuming its legit and i pin enough, how soon into using hgh will i begin getting numb hands? Does it happen from day 1 or does it take awhile?

5) someone here mentioned hgh has a specific taste. Can anyone describe how it should taste?

6) is there any other short term side effect thats a good indicator of legit hgh? To note im currently back on mk-677 so that may obscure some things (i dont get numb hands from it tho)

Im of course not sure the stuffs even legit for certain, only one way im going to find out really.

Appreciate some replies as fast as possible, jonsin like a junkie to pin this shit.

 

[Eman]

1) i can recon with 1ml of Bac water per vial and ill get 1iu of the gh in every 10iu on a slin pin, correct?

2) can i recon wirh just 0.5ml of bac for a 10iu vial? Or will it take more liquid?

3) this should all be kept in the fridge, correct? Both recon and lyo?

Yes.

4) assuming its legit and i pin enough, how soon into using hgh will i begin getting numb hands? Does it happen from day 1 or does it take awhile

Depends on dose and individual I'd say... You might feel tingling hands within a few days if you're using enough.

5) someone here mentioned hgh has a specific taste. Can anyone describe how it should taste?

Don't bother.

6) is there any other short term side effect thats a good indicator of legit hgh?

Not really... Anything you do feel quickly is probably placebo.

Get bloods, then you'll know.

 

[Megadick3000]

Bloods cost me an arm and a leg unfortunately, and im also on mk-677 again which would obscure blood results. I might send a vial in for HPLC or NMR or something though (it would cost me less than blood work).

Whats enough to give you tingling hands Eman?

Anyways i just shot 2iu, i felt a slight flushing sensation in my face about 3-5 minutes afterwards. To note ive experience with ghrp-6, mod grf 1-29, and cjc-1295 DAC. The combo of those 3 and mk-677 all at once gave me numb hands.

 

[Eman]

Whats enough to give you tingling hands Eman?

Maybe 3iu? I can't really remember anymore... I might have gotten it on 2iu after a few days.

 

[Vita]

Thank you both for this Q&A. I am a bit confused on #2 though. "2) can i recon wirh just 0.5ml of bac for a 10iu vial? Or will it take more liquid?" is it yes to the first part using less liquid or yes to the later?

Also I have been reading about people splitting up their injection am/pm currently I am thinking about 2iu on a daily basis then upping that while running gear to either 4iu or more likely 5iu to get 2 days per vial. If 5iu is there any advantage to the split, 3 in the morning and 2 at night compared to 2 in the morning and 3 at night?

 

[Demondosage]

Thank you both for this Q&A. I am a bit confused on #2 though. "2) can i recon wirh just 0.5ml of bac for a 10iu vial? Or will it take more liquid?" is it yes to the first part using less liquid or yes to the later?

Also I have been reading about people splitting up their injection am/pm currently I am thinking about 2iu on a daily basis then upping that while running gear to either 4iu or more likely 5iu to get 2 days per vial. If 5iu is there any advantage to the split, 3 in the morning and 2 at night compared to 2 in the morning and 3 at night?

Gh can make you tired feeling. Splitting it up isn't a bad idea once you.get to 4iu, I'd go 2 in morning and 2iu before bed

 

[Eman]

"2) can i recon wirh just 0.5ml of bac for a 10iu vial? Or will it take more liquid?" is it yes to the first part using less liquid or yes to the later?

First part, you can recon with less water than 1 or 1.5ml of BAC

 

[Marcus]

I would honestly send it for analysis asap... know if you're wasting your time or not pinning mostly water or GH. 80 cents a unit from Mr Chen would throw up flags for me. Or just pin and see what happens

Take my post with a grain of salt because I know little about the GH world. Demon and eman won't steer you wrong

 

[Megadick3000]

I would honestly send it for analysis asap... know if you're wasting your time or not pinning mostly water or GH. 80 cents a unit from Mr Chen would throw up flags for me. Or just pin and see what happens

Take my post with a grain of salt because I know little about the GH world. Demon and eman won't steer you wrong

It was actually Mr. Chang.

But ya i felt the same way (skeptical). They did send me an analysis for it (supposedly) but that dont mean shit. I bought 200iu as an experiment. I have vetted the supplier for their raws which ive confirmed were legit but this is my first time trying their peps. I might order sone of their cjc-1295 DAC because i get VERY obvious side effects from it if its legit stuff. Like totally undeniable sides.

Eman: when i recon it for several minutes afterwards there is fizzy foam layer in the vial ontop of the water. This dissipates after about 5 minutes. Is that common when reconstituting gh? I thought maybe its sonething added to balance the pH level.

Update: i think im on day 6 or something. ive been doing 2iu in the am and then 3iu in the pm, so 5iu a day. Yesterday i did a total of 8iu though, i also began adding slin (humalog) yesterday, im very experienced with slin so save me any lectures on it. Because ive been off slin for a bit im pyramiding back up. Yesterday went like this:

Morning: 2iu hgh, wait 5 minutes, 3iu humalog
Evening post workput: 6iu hgh, wait 5 minutes, 5iu slin

I gained 1.2kg in 24 hours (slins great). I just weighed in after an 18 hour fasting. My face looks like a dbol moonface lol

So far ive not had any noticeable effects from the supposed GH except my hands and wrists feel tight. By tight i mean the same way your muscles feel when they are pumped up. It comes and goes. It could be from the mk-677 which i know is definitely legit as it has glaringly obvious side effects from the first dosing. Im taking that at 25mg/day and i bought it as raw powder from my chinamen, compounded it myself into a solution.

Later today i will do legs, post workout i will immediately pin 8iu of the gh and then 5 minutes later pin 8iu of humalog.

Ive not felt tired or any numb hands...

 

[Eman]

Eman: when i recon it for several minutes afterwards there is fizzy foam layer in the vial ontop of the water. This dissipates after about 5 minutes. Is that common when reconstituting gh? I thought maybe its sonething added to balance the pH level.

Yeah, it's pretty normal. Are you injecting air into the vial before adding BAC to break the vacuum?

Is there a vacuum? You should be able to pull the plunger back, insert the syringe into the vial, and watch the plunger pull in on its own. It might need a little push to move.

except my hands and wrists feel tight

That's a good sign I'd say...

 

[Megadick3000]

Yeah, it's pretty normal. Are you injecting air into the vial before adding BAC to break the vacuum?

Is there a vacuum? You should be able to pull the plunger back, insert the syringe into the vial, and watch the plunger pull in on its own. It might need a little push to move.



That's a good sign I'd say...

Yes theres a vacuum. And even putting bac water into empty used vials still causedthe fizzy foaming.

Anyways pretty big update here. Heres what happened.

I woke up with tight hands/wrists as usual, a few days ago (day 14 of use i think), but unlike other days the tightness didnt go away. By the evening my feet became so tight i struggled to get into my shoes. I went for a short hike and my hands and feet went numb and then tingled. So too did my jaw line and my upper chest right around my collar bone (went numb and tingly). I developed really bad shortness of breath as well starting a few days earlier, huffing and puffing without reason. I really noticed it when i bent down to pick something up off the floor and had to spend 5 minutes on the couch just trying to recover my breath. This was problematic. My face was also swollen up as fuck. My hands and feet were visibly swollen so much so they had rolls on them like a morbidly obese person. I was in the downtown core of side effect city and it was hitting like a freight train.

At this point id been averaging 5iu/day with one day of 8iu and i think two days of 6 or 7iu. I achieved what i was initially after, definitive confirmation that the shits legit. Im now on the last vial of the first kit. Unable to cope mostly with the extreme shortness of breath i stopped the hgh, stopped the slin + creatine, and cut my mk-677 back to 1/3rd the dose for a day, 3 days ago. I loaded myself with dandelion root extract, upped my potassium, dropped my sodium, and drank 4 cups of green tea a day. Been doing that for the past 3 days. I de swelled overnight and most importantly the shortness of breath subsided.

As of yesterday i upped mk-677 back to 25mg a day, and reintroduced 2iu/day of hgh. Im on to day 2 now. Already my hands and wrists are tight again. Im continuing with my anti bloat protocol of the herbal shit, and will reintroduce insulin in the coming days.

I have no doubt the stuffs legit now and whilst ive no other reference point for comparison the quality seems potent, even this 2iu/day is showing signs rapidly and ive only taken 1 shot, will pin 2iu sometime later today.

The only side i really cant deal with is the shortness of breath, it was really bad and was agitating my day to day life. Also freediving season starts soon for me and the worst thing you could have for free diving is shortness of breath, those two go together like oil and water.

Will be interesting to see if this dandelion root extract can help keep the water retention down on 2iu/day.

 

[Megadick3000]

And fir those who like pictures...

 

[Megadick3000]

Just an update here.

I wound up dropping the dandelion root extract after like 6-7 days as i kept waking up having to piss like 3x a night which annoyed me. But it dried me out within a day or two.

I seem to have become more resistant to the sides as well. Currently running 3iu/ed, nothing but tight wrists and hands on occassion. Off slin now for a few weeks longer, i seem to have become significantly more slin resistant. Pinning 10iu of humalog was feeling more like 5iu after awhile.

I ordered 2 more kits of the GH and got a kit of their GHRP-6 to help boost my calorie intake also. Im at the end of my second bottle of mk-677 solution i made, which totals 1500mg taken so far in a consecutive manner. I guess ill be compounding a new bottle over the weekend.

Im on the last vial of my GH, second kit. Marking almost 200iu taken.

Ive noticed no real benefit to my physique at this point, i do sleep better and have a better overall mood, but thats about it.

 

[Megadick3000]

I want to ask you guys who pin GH. Whats your pinning schedule?

By which i mean, are you splitting your dose into two pins a day or are you doing 1 pin, and what time or times of day are you guys pinning GH and how does that correlate with food intake?

Ive been trying everything, from once daily in the am, once daily right before bed, once daily pre workout, once daily post workout, and ive also tried splitting dose into 2x a day. Ive tried pre-food pins, post food pins, and fasted pins.

Since starting my third kit ive bern pinning 3iu once daily immediately before bed.

Ive done a fairbit of reading on this and have read different guys advocating different pinning schedules for GH. Some are adamant its best taken right before bed, others say immediately post workout, others say the AM. Some say split, others say one dose, others say double your dose but pin EOD instead of ED. Some say do big 10+iu doses EOD others say smaller daily doses.

Does it actually matter? Thoughts? Personal experiences? Your preferences?

 

[puckhog]

I do 2 iu early AM, dont eat for 2/3 hrs. Then pin 2iu early afternoon. No symptoms for me other than suuuper tired. Greytops from PD.

 

[Marcus]

I do 2 iu early AM, dont eat for 2/3 hrs. Then pin 2iu early afternoon. No symptoms for me other than suuuper tired. Greytops from PD.

Puck, how you like the greys from PD right now?

 

[puckhog]

@Marcus honestly I am not sure yet. This is my first run so I have nothing to compare to.

 

[tandd6]

Updates??

 

[Megadick3000]

Updates??

Still running this stuff. What am i at now, 6 months or something.

Ive been steady at 3iu/ed. At one point due to waiting too long to order more i ended up off it for about a week. When i got more i shot 3iu twice in the day and felt very lethargic after the second shot. Back to 3iu/ed.

Also about 1.5 months ago the stuff my supplier sent had different colored tops. They are now blue tops on the vials, quality seems the same as the green tops. I got from the same supplier, same price, etc.

In terms of benefits to taking hgh? Very little. My joints feel more robust which is appreciated given theyre a weak point for my body. Im maybe a bit leaner than usual, i last calipered in at 5.8% BF, but im an ectomorph and being lean is my specialty. I had a very active summer (hence my absence), and that may be why im a bit leaner than usual. Muscles have a bit more of a 3D look. Marginal benefits.

Current macros are 250g protein, 400g carbs, 130g fats.

Sinc ive been on for 6 months im now getting ready for a cycle. Will be my first time combining hgh with an aas cycle. I havent ran a cycle in over 2 years, maybe 3 now. Cycle will be test freebase, dbol, tbol, hgh, mk677, slin. Will be 8 weeks. Im going on holidays in early 2018 so ive gotta have the cycle and PCT all wrapped up by the end of january at the latest. Otherwise id probably do it to 10-12 weeks.


Ive still not settled on any specific injection schedule. Sometimes i shoot in the am, sometimes noon, sometimes right before bed. Im not sure how much it matters.

 

[Marcus]

Still running this stuff. What am i at now, 6 months or something.

Ive been steady at 3iu/ed. At one point due to waiting too long to order more i ended up off it for about a week. When i got more i shot 3iu twice in the day and felt very lethargic after the second shot. Back to 3iu/ed.

Also about 1.5 months ago the stuff my supplier sent had different colored tops. They are now blue tops on the vials, quality seems the same as the green tops. I got from the same supplier, same price, etc.

In terms of benefits to taking hgh? Very little. My joints feel more robust which is appreciated given theyre a weak point for my body. Im maybe a bit leaner than usual, i last calipered in at 5.8% BF, but im an ectomorph and being lean is my specialty. I had a very active summer (hence my absence), and that may be why im a bit leaner than usual. Muscles have a bit more of a 3D look. Marginal benefits.

Current macros are 250g protein, 400g carbs, 130g fats.

Sinc ive been on for 6 months im now getting ready for a cycle. Will be my first time combining hgh with an aas cycle. I havent ran a cycle in over 2 years, maybe 3 now. Cycle will be test freebase, dbol, tbol, hgh, mk677, slin. Will be 8 weeks. Im going on holidays in early 2018 so ive gotta have the cycle and PCT all wrapped up by the end of january at the latest. Otherwise id probably do it to 10-12 weeks.


Ive still not settled on any specific injection schedule. Sometimes i shoot in the am, sometimes noon, sometimes right before bed. Im not sure how much it matters.

Any bloodwork? You in a state that you're able to get it?