Generic first cycle log

[PaulHeyman]

Week 5 of 12 coming to an end. Up about 15-16 pounds right now, which is honestly more than I expected. That's averaging out to 3+ a week which would equal nearly a 40lb gain over the 12 week cycle.

So planning to pull back on food a little but and remove the PB that was added two weeks ago. Only a modest 200 cal drop, but it'll be enough of a fats reduction for my body to starting burning up carbs faster again and hopefully stick to cleaner weight

Planning to get mid-cycle bloods next week. Does it matter at all which day I get blood pulled regarding pinning schedule (monday and thursday) to ensure numbers are as accurate as possible?

 

[phenominal34]

Week 5 of 12 coming to an end. Up about 15-16 pounds right now, which is honestly more than I expected. That's averaging out to 3+ a week which would equal nearly a 40lb gain over the 12 week cycle.

So planning to pull back on food a little but and remove the PB that was added two weeks ago. Only a modest 200 cal drop, but it'll be enough of a fats reduction for my body to starting burning up carbs faster again and hopefully stick to cleaner weight

Planning to get mid-cycle bloods next week. Does it matter at all which day I get blood pulled regarding pinning schedule (monday and thursday) to ensure numbers are as accurate as possible?

So how much weight have you put on since starting this cycle ?

 

[Eddie.]

Week 5 of 12 coming to an end. Up about 15-16 pounds right now, which is honestly more than I expected. That's averaging out to 3+ a week which would equal nearly a 40lb gain over the 12 week cycle.

So planning to pull back on food a little but and remove the PB that was added two weeks ago. Only a modest 200 cal drop, but it'll be enough of a fats reduction for my body to starting burning up carbs faster again and hopefully stick to cleaner weight

Planning to get mid-cycle bloods next week. Does it matter at all which day I get blood pulled regarding pinning schedule (monday and thursday) to ensure numbers are as accurate as possible?

Looks like your fats were kinda high, 6 whole eggs is already too much. Usually for enhanced guys carbs is No1 priority, keep fats low and add extra fats if you ever come to a point when you can't eat more carbs.

What have you done with the aromasin, do you take some or not? If you're not, probably much of this weight could be from water retention. I think it's silly to start a 500mg first cycle and not take any AI, especially if HCG is involved. Usually you can get it away without AI if you're some cycles in already, most first timers need some kind of estrogen management even with 200mg. You were lean enough when you started and possibly you would not need an AI for 200mg but 500 is enough.

I'd suggest to draw blood on the day you pin, before you pin. If that's not possible then Sunday if the clinic is open.

 

[PaulHeyman]

So how much weight have you put on since starting this cycle ?

Thru these 5 weeks, about 16-17 pounds

 

[PaulHeyman]

Looks like your fats were kinda high, 6 whole eggs is already too much. Usually for enhanced guys carbs is No1 priority, keep fats low and add extra fats if you ever come to a point when you can't eat more carbs.

What have you done with the aromasin, do you take some or not? If you're not, probably much of this weight could be from water retention. I think it's silly to start a 500mg first cycle and not take any AI, especially if HCG is involved. Usually you can get it away without AI if you're some cycles in already, most first timers need some kind of estrogen management even with 200mg. You were lean enough when you started and possibly you would not need an AI for 200mg but 500 is enough.

I'd suggest to draw blood on the day you pin, before you pin. If that's not possible then Sunday if the clinic is open.

Fats are just those eggs and then 1TBS of olive oil. Yeah honestly simply lowering the fats by that little bit via the PB made my digestion already feeling so much better

So I decided to not use hcg during cycle. I do have Aromasin, but haven't even opened it yet.

I don't feel or recognize any noticeable sides. Virtually no acne to speak of, no noticeable crazy bloat or anything like that (to my eye at least), no back pumps, zero nip issues. I'd say some crazy calf pumps are what I really notice and that's it from a side perspective.

Was waiting to see what bloods say before using my AI because there wasn't any noticeable sides

 

[PaulHeyman]

Some recent photos from this morning. Despite my bitching about a little PB and weight gain ( the whole fucking point of this), everything is going great. Lifts are climbing every day, body shaking pumps after some hard sets and loving life

North of 200lbs and the milestone of 18” arms

 

[Gymbro901]

Some recent photos from this morning. Despite my bitching about a little PB and weight gain ( the whole fucking point of this), everything is going great. Lifts are climbing every day, body shaking pumps after some hard sets and loving life

North of 200lbs and the milestone of 18” arms

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Damn dude blowing up!! Nice work

 

[TribulusMax]

Good work

 

[PaulHeyman]

FINALLY mid-cycle blood results are in. Note to self: draw blood Week five and not Week six, because it took them damn near a week to get back results.

For reference, bloods were pulled Tuesday morning, 24hrs after pinning. I saw the recommendation of doing it later than that in the drawing cycle, but the clinic local to me had weird hours cuz of Juneteenth and they aren’t open on the weekends. So it was 24hr post pin Tuesday or not until next week.

Obviously estrogen is pretty fuckin high. And again, I don’t feel any symptoms of high E but obviously see the benefit of getting that lowered a bit. Do have aromasin on hand. Open to some feedback on the dosing protocol for that.

Order of categories:

Total Test
Free test
SHBG
E

The gear ain’t bunk! lol

 

[Eddie.]

You're one of the very few people i see that maintain a SHBG that high while on 500mg of androgens. That's not necessarily a bad thing, if you care to get it lower to raise some free test you can do that by pinning more frequent, otherwise you could use some proviron. But even if you don't do anything of these by lowering estrogen to reasonable levels perhaps SHBG come down too.

For aromasin you'll have to shoot in the dark for a while and retest e2 after 3-4 weeks to see how it's progressing, or keep shooting in the dark..i don't think you will bury it that easy with aromasin. I'd suggest 25mg twice per week, if you pin twice per week those days take a pill. You could split it in half and take 4 days but i don't find any reason to bother with this, 1 pill 2 times a week it's what i suggest. Get it down to 60s..you'll still out of the reference range but you won't get any potential sides.

 

[PaulHeyman]

You're one of the very few people i see that maintain a SHBG that high while on 500mg of androgens. That's not necessarily a bad thing, if you care to get it lower to raise some free test you can do that by pinning more frequent, otherwise you could use some proviron. But even if you don't do anything of these by lowering estrogen to reasonable levels perhaps SHBG come down too.

For aromasin you'll have to shoot in the dark for a while and retest e2 after 3-4 weeks to see how it's progressing, or keep shooting in the dark..i don't think you will bury it that easy with aromasin. I'd suggest 25mg twice per week, if you pin twice per week those days take a pill. You could split it in half and take 4 days but i don't find any reason to bother with this, 1 pill 2 times a week it's what i suggest. Get it down to 60s..you'll still out of the reference range but you won't get any potential sides.

Thanks man, appreciate the feedback. I'll start with 25mgs Aromasin tomorrow

 

[PaulHeyman]

Weight has dipped down recently. Time for another cal bump. All carbs.

Pumped when I tell myself I still got 5 more weeks of this, then get sad when I realize it's only 5 more weeks

 

[bigboy420]

Whats the plan after the pct?

 

[PaulHeyman]

Whats the plan after the pct?

Bloods probably 3-4 weeks after to see how well natty levels came back and just keep eating and lifting as hard as I can. Got some holiday time travel planned so looking at another run sometime in the new year

 

[bigboy420]

Bloods probably 3-4 weeks after to see how well natty levels came back and just keep eating and lifting as hard as I can. Got some holiday time travel planned so looking at another run sometime in the new year

Cruising master race

 

[PaulHeyman]

Carbs have been bumped up in meals #2 and #3 this week. Lifts in the gym still progressing every week. Just did dips with a 3 sec descent this week with a 95lb dumbbell strapped on the belt. Felt like a cyborg haha

Left elbow tendonitis flared up a bit thanks to the weighted pull ups so swapped them out for a pulldown machine. Only exercise that aggravates it at all, so just working around it and having no issues there

Cruising master race

That will definitely be in my future. i'm coming up on 30. Need to do more research on the details of it all and ensure it's a true cruise and not a mini cycle

 

[bigboy420]

true cruise and not a mini cycle

I feel so great on 150mg man. Yea man your smart you will figure it out.

To me it looks like PCT would be a setback. You look insane man.

 

[PaulHeyman]

Pic from this week. First sign of any sides is some VERY slight acne on the shoulders and traps. I’m talking like 1-2 pimples the size of an ant. Worth noting but nothing serious

 

[PaulHeyman]

I feel so great on 150mg man. Yea man your smart you will figure it out.

To me it looks like PCT would be a setback. You look insane man.

Thanks man, I appreciate that. I still wanna learn how my body rebounds (even if it is a moot point down the road).

 

[Ninjarello1]

25 aromasin 2x week Is reallyyyyy High dosage, i would start with 6,25mg 2x week or 12,5 every 5 or 7 days...but if you are not having High e2 syntoms you absolutly don t need to use AI, High e2 are good for heart and hypertrophy and low or crashed e2 Is the worst esperience you can have