hgh for age related physical decline after 40s?

10mg var isn’t going to do shit for a fully functional male who isn’t geriatric or a burn victim desperate to hold onto muscle mass besides maybe suppress your natural testosterone. It’s wild the magic thinking I see on here.
 
As a woman this is so fucking annoying to read. (1) I hope you never give advice to women and if you're a coach or something, I really hope you don't have female clients. Not to mention this is a HIGH dose for women. (2) Do some research on actual studies of oxandrolone, which include doses as low as 15mg/day in men showing increased muscle protein synthesis and lean mass gain. For someone looking to incrementally improve body comp beyond where they can get naturally, without completely trashing their lipids, it's not an unreasonable thing to try for $20 or whatever.
Found the femal on her period
 
I also search for medical literature and try to learn from official approved use for a selected drug first. Do you know what anavar is used for? Did you read common guidelines for recovery with oxandrolone on patients after muscle loss at real medical environment? As far as I know they're not put on trt alongside because "hpta suppresion" or negative net gains outcome. You suggest official protocol doesn't work and they're doing it wrong. An enthusiast in a bb forum calling "bro scicence" medical guidelines for a given drug.

Example:
Oxandrolone in the treatment of HIV-associated weight loss in men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study
Hey brother just keep using the medical literature and ignore the empty tea cups making all the noise because it’s seems to me that you are way over the heads of these “PSEUDO INTELLECTUALS “ . Some people do contribute empirical evidence but what might work for others might not work for you. One thing I have found out since being in the iron game over 50 years this is no “cookie cutter “ endeavor but a highly subjective one. BTW I LEARNED A LOT FROM WHAT YOU RESPONDED WITH AND IT REMINDED ME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN THE IRON GAME has said continuously over a long time since my initial venture into it…GOOD LUCK BEST WISHES AND MAY YOUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE YOURSELF LEAD YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ..The caps was used to accentuate the the importance of the gist that I was trying to communicate to you, not to scream at you
 
Hey brother just keep using the medical literature and ignore the empty tea cups making all the noise because it’s seems to me that you are way over the heads of these “PSEUDO INTELLECTUALS “ . Some people do contribute empirical evidence but what might work for others might not work for you. One thing I have found out since being in the iron game over 50 years this is no “cookie cutter “ endeavor but a highly subjective one. BTW I LEARNED A LOT FROM WHAT YOU RESPONDED WITH AND IT REMINDED ME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN THE IRON GAME has said continuously over a long time since my initial venture into it…GOOD LUCK BEST WISHES AND MAY YOUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE YOURSELF LEAD YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ..The caps was used to accentuate the the importance of the gist that I was trying to communicate to you, not to scream at you
Enjoy your suppressed test from low dose anavar without using test. There’s a bunch of medical literature about that specifically but we are just gonna ignore that in favor of op’s half assed research? We’re just going to ignore the vast majority of this community openly rejecting oral only cycles because they’re both ineffective and cause health issues because you don’t like the answer?
 
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Enjoy your suppressed test from low dose anavar without using test. There’s a bunch of medical literature about that specifically but we are just gonna ignore that in favor of op’s half assed research? We’re just going to ignore the vast majority of this community openly rejecting oral only cycles because they’re both ineffective and cause health issues because you don’t like the answer?
No bro he did his research. Orals only cycles are really good and you will BLOW up from 10mg var. We are going to see him at mister olympia next year
 
Since we're talking about long term, maybe forever use, get baseline IGF then follow up a few weeks after starting. and let that and morning fasted glucose guide your rHGH usage, not some arbitrary number of ius,

It's a cheap test.

Then keep IGF around 1.3x the upper
limit for your age if you want to minimize risks.

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This was from 5 ius daily & in a slight calorie surplus 52 yo , i have since reduced my dose a smidge , IMG_3138.webp
 
Just my 2 cents:

high irony from someone who is likely on tren
Not sure if you really are on your period, but I am running tren. But what I can tell you is that you that you are not helping your case, by perpetuating the myth, that everyone on tren becomes an asshole, and that every asshole must be running tren.
Serious question, do you know a lot of real bodybuilders, if any? Because that post don't make it seem so. If no, maybe just refrain from accusing someone to be likely running tren, if you are offended by being accused to be on your period. Because you just did the same thing he did.
I probably have a kinda decent idea how many guys are actually running tren, for how long, and if they do so at all. Given I am just a dumb meathead running tren, I had to look it up again, but now I also know how long and often women are on her period. And because of that I can assure you that it is a statistical fact, that, at any point in time, he is waaaay more likely to be right, than the other way around.

All that being said, you are 100% right, in regards to Var. 10mg IS indeed a HIGH dose for a female. Anyone claiming otherwise has no clue what he is talking about.
A friend of mine is running 15mg right now, and she almost mutated over the last two months. She trains a wellness split but her upper body blew up as well, even her arms, that she doesn't even train. She had done one Var cycle before a while ago, not sure about the dose, could have been in the same ballpark.
I will even argue, that 10mg would be a decent dose for a male running "just" a TRT-ish dose of test.

Fun fact: Her husband had run 700mg of tren pre-contest in the past, and she could not tell at all. That is how much of an asshole he becomes on tren.


To the OP:
Stop fucking with the Var, and get on TRT, 150mg of Test U is plenty already.
You can thank me later.
 
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I've also been doing 8iu M/W/F which also corresponds to my workout days because 3-4iu daily was jacking up my RHR too much. On M/W/F even with the larger doses my RHR is back down in the high 70's, low 80's versus 90 on ED dosing.

Fat loss has been cooking along just as well as daily dosing and workout recovery has been great. Also am managing to gain some muscle in a caloric deficit so this dosing gets two thumbs up from me so far.
Just saw this and as someone who gets sky high RHR on daily hgh, I am intrigued. I get into the high 90's with just 2IU ED dosage. I have ivabradine on the way, but was curious if your heart rate was still doing well with the EOD dose
 
Also intrigued by this. Hgh might be the main contribution to my rhr and hrv issues.

Currently taking a week off to see what happens.

Any updates if this schedule helped you?
 
Also intrigued by this. Hgh might be the main contribution to my rhr and hrv issues.

Currently taking a week off to see what happens.

Any updates if this schedule helped you?
Just saw this and as someone who gets sky high RHR on daily hgh, I am intrigued. I get into the high 90's with just 2IU ED dosage. I have ivabradine on the way, but was curious if your heart rate was still doing well with the EOD dose
 
Also intrigued by this. Hgh might be the main contribution to my rhr and hrv issues.

Currently taking a week off to see what happens.

Any updates if this schedule helped you?
So I started taking nebivolol and doing eod, and it helped by about 10 bpm. Not sure which one caused the drop. I swapped back to ed to see if it’s the neb or the eod protocol. I should know shortly
 
No bro he did his research. Orals only cycles are really good and you will BLOW up from 10mg var. We are going to see him at mister olympia next year

In case you didn't read the post or have some kind of comprehension skill problem. The goal is not competing at Mr.O. It is to get a little add that helps with daily workout recovery and so well-being. No to become a "super-human", nor to put onto tons of muscle.

Do you get to understand the difference about goals? Maybe you should do your research.
 
In case you didn't read the post or have some kind of comprehension skill problem. The goal is not competing at Mr.O. It is to get a little add that helps with daily workout recovery and so well-being. No to become a "super-human", nor to put onto tons of muscle.

Do you get to understand the difference about goals? Maybe you should do your research.
Totally!! Thats very good idea!!! Take 10 or even better 20,30mg of Var! You will totally achieve your goals with this. YOU are in fact COMPLETELY RIGHT! Go for it champ!
 
If that’s your goal then shutting off your balls with low dose var is probably the last thing you’d want to do.
No no thats roid head propaganda! Stop contrradicting this good informed expert of the HPT-axis! Please incourage him!
We should listen carefully to gain as much as possible from his experience and knowledge
 
In case you didn't read the post or have some kind of comprehension skill problem. The goal is not competing at Mr.O. It is to get a little add that helps with daily workout recovery and so well-being. No to become a "super-human", nor to put onto tons of muscle.

Do you get to understand the difference about goals? Maybe you should do your research.
Your plan is dumb. Good luck.
 
If that’s your goal then shutting off your balls with low dose var is probably the last thing you’d want to do.
With 10mg/day of var? slight inhibition at most. Complete shutting off I don't think so. Do you have any study or anything that backs your statement, beyond the mainstream broscience dogma?
 
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