HGH while fasting is making sick .... need help

[Abu-Nawas1989]

I am not sure how I am supposed to start this thread
But I need some help to figure out what's going on
I received some generic HGH last week
I started at 5iu a day
I been 20 hours fasting on non workout days for almost a year now
But once I started the HGH
I can't fast anymore
Especially if I drink coffee
I already had 2 episodes of overactive hyperglycemia
2 hours after a meal and my blood sugar gets as low as 70
I end up drinking so much water 2 or 3 gallons and I can barley urinate
But as soon as I eat I start to feel better and start peeing normally
Today I tried it again and thought if I drink only 1 cup if coffee it won't happen
But same thing happened
I couldn't urinate and felt like I was holding water
I know it's real and it's strong
Because I wake up the next morning leaner
And I feel carpel tunnel syndrome
And am sleeping better
No joint pains and recovery is better way better

 

[Elistheman]

Please detail your goal? I assume fat loss? drop the GH, fasting by itself, when done right, is already jacking up your GH. Injected GH increases insulin which is counter to your goal since when insulin is high, glucagon is low.

 

[HB_22]

I already had 2 episodes of overactive hyperglycemia
2 hours after a meal and my blood sugar gets as low as 70

That's actually called hypoglycemia. Hyper means your blood sugar is going crazy high, but 70 is very low.

 

[LSDPowerlifting]

So you deprive your damaged muscles of nutrients for 20 hours and then for 4 hours you give them more than they can assimilate?

 

[Fattyone]

Nothing to add other than starting HGH at 5iu a day is a pretty damn big jump. Most start around 2 and slowly work up

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

Please detail your goal? I assume fat loss? drop the GH, fasting by itself, when done right, is already jacking up your GH. Injected GH increases insulin which is counter to your goal since when insulin is high, glucagon is low.

My goal is to add muscle and burn bodyfat

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

That's actually called hypoglycemia. Hyper means your blood sugar is going crazy high, but 70 is very low.

My bad
English is my second language

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

Nothing to add other than starting HGH at 5iu a day is a pretty damn big jump. Most start around 2 and slowly work up

I would drop it to 2 ius and continue what I was doing
But am afraid it happens again

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

So you deprive your damaged muscles of nutrients for 20 hours and then for 4 hours you give them more than they can assimilate?

Some people believe in intermediate fasting
I tried it and it works
It might not work for a big guy because they need way more calories

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

Please detail your goal? I assume fat loss? drop the GH, fasting by itself, when done right, is already jacking up your GH. Injected GH increases insulin which is counter to your goal since when insulin is high, glucagon is low.

So do people usually eat after they take HGH
It's only happening after I reach long hours of fasting
And drink coffee

 

[LSDPowerlifting]

Some people believe in intermediate fasting
I tried it and it works
It might not work for a big guy because they need way more calories

It's fucking terrible, if you take that same amount of calories you eat in that 4 hour window and spread it out evenly over the hours that you are awake you'll lose just as much fat and build or keep more muscle

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

Right now it's been 3 hours since I had my meal
And I am urinating normally and feeling better

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

It's fucking terrible, if you take that same amount of calories you eat in that 4 hour window and spread it out evenly over the hours that you are awake you'll lose just as much fat and build or keep more muscle

Fasting fixed my digestion
And I feel so much healthier
I am able to add weight to the bar
But I took 3 months off and working my way back up

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

It's fucking terrible, if you take that same amount of calories you eat in that 4 hour window and spread it out evenly over the hours that you are awake you'll lose just as much fat and build or keep more muscle

Fasting fixed my digestion
And I feel so much healthier
I am able to add weight to the bar
But I took 3 months off and working my way back

 

[Elistheman]

My goal is to add muscle and burn bodyfat

I have experimented with IF and prolonged fasting for 4 years, fat you will burn, but muscle? you won't build much, you need insulin to build. If your window is 8 hours, you are limiting insulin rollercoaster to only 8 hours which is not optimal for muscle building.

I am planning to open a thread with all the experiments I have done during that 4 year period of different fasting regiments. High doses/low doses of steroids did nothing other than preserving muscle better, not building new tissue. (N=1 though...)

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

I have experimented with IF and prolonged fasting for 4 years, fat you will burn, but muscle? you won't build much, you need insulin to build. If your window is 8 hours, you are limiting insulin rollercoaster to only 8 hours which is not optimal for muscle building.

I am planning to open a thread with all the experiments I have done during that 4 year period of different fasting regiments. High doses/low doses of steroids did nothing other than preserving muscle better, not building new tissue. (N=1 though...)

I would love to continue fasting
But with the hgh am suffering
And I don't think it's a good thing that I drink 3 gallons and still can't take a piss
I am already seeing the HD look on my muscles especially after i fast and suffer

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

Maybe I have to eat because am growing
Am only taking trt right now with HGH
And been training for 2 months after I took 3 months off

 

[Elistheman]

I would love to continue fasting
But with the hgh am suffering
And I don't think it's a good thing that I drink 3 gallons and still can't take a piss
I am already seeing the HD look on my muscles especially after i fast and suffer

Drop the GH or eat normally.

 

[Abu-Nawas1989]

Drop the GH or eat normally.

Alright that's what am going to have to do

Have you ever tried fasting on a lower dose HGH
Like 2 IUs?

Am asking because I tried Lyle Macdonald UD2 and had great results
But the calories is very low on low carb days
And I was fasting while doing it

I was planning to try it again with HGH added

 

[Elistheman]

Alright that's what am going to have to do

Have you ever tried fasting on a lower dose HGH
Like 2 IUs?

Am asking because I tried Lyle Macdonald UD2 and had great results
But the calories is very low on low carb days
And I was fasting while doing it

I was planning to try it again with HGH added

You can do the UD2 without fasting. Again, I think by looking at mechanism of exogenous HGH, that it is counter productive to inject it while also fasting (insulin effects).

I never tried HGH, maybe in 3 years from now, I have been training for 13 years, of which 5 enhanced, avoided tren like the plague and stick to the classics. Doing blast and cruise sitting on 12% 90kg (1.69m).