High bloodpressure on cycle with telmaim

[Lifting88]

Im on a bulking cycle 5 weeks in

Cycle 400 test e 300 deca 400 bold 5iu hgh

im using 40 telma with 1.25 nebivolol
Nebevolol only because my restinh heartrate went a little up when starting the hgh

My bloodpressure went up from 120/130 to 60/65 to 140/150 to 65/70

I Think from the EQ

shall i drop the EQ, raise telma or nebivolol

Maybe a better bloodpressure medicine with telma or to replace

I never had the idee telma really did alot for me to lower is but i take it for the healthbenefits


Let me know thanks!

 

[BP_6]

I would bump the telma up to 80 start with. 1.25 neb is an ultra low dose and probably doing very little. It probably at a minimum should be at 2.5 and preferably 5.

 

[Lifting88]

I would bump the telma up to 80 start with. 1.25 neb is an ultra low dose and probably doing very little. It probably at a minimum should be at 2.5 and preferably 5.

Neb on 1.25 was lowing my heart with around 5/7 bmp

Hgh raise it around that

 

[HUGE McBIGLARGE]

Is there a reason why non-urinary alpha blockers like doxazosin/terazosin aren’t recommended here? I took doxazosin and it lowered my BP additively to an ARB, and it improved my erections to boot.

Unless there’s a good reason, I’d recommend that OP ups the telmisartan to 80mg, and then adds another class of antihypertensives, possibly alpha blockers.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

140/150 to 65/70 isolated systolic hypertension. An optimal addition to your current regimen would be a CCB, like 5mg Amlodipine. Talk to your doctor about that.
Also, how do you measure your blood pressure? If you use an upper-arm pressure cuff, make sure it is big enough and conically shaped. Otherwise you will get false readings when applied to muscular arms.

 

[CaptainTren]

400 mg of eq is very small. I'd drop it personally though I don't think the eq is major cause for the BP increase. Probably hgh caused the BP spike

 

[Jin23]

Im on a bulking cycle 5 weeks in

Cycle 400 test e 300 deca 400 bold 5iu hgh

im using 40 telma with 1.25 nebivolol
Nebevolol only because my restinh heartrate went a little up when starting the hgh

My bloodpressure went up from 120/130 to 60/65 to 140/150 to 65/70

I Think from the EQ

shall i drop the EQ, raise telma or nebivolol

Maybe a better bloodpressure medicine with telma or to replace

I never had the idee telma really did alot for me to lower is but i take it for the healthbenefits


Let me know thanks!

Your bp went up after adding GH? Did you go from 0 straight to 5 iu's?

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

Cardio? Diet? Hydration?

 

[Lifting88]

Your bp went up after adding GH? Did you go from 0 straight to 5 iu's?

No is going up when i start this blast

8 cruised at 200 test with 3 iu hgh

 

[Lifting88]

Cardio? Diet? Hydration?

Cardio i dont do enough i know its not good but i don't have alot off free time so most time i have goes to training 4 days a week 75 min and mealprep

Diet is around 5500 kcal 80% clean
Little sugur intra and post workout


Hydration i drink around 3.5 to 4.5 l water

 

[DugPrime]

@Lifting88 how's your BP now?

 

[bigMoJo]

shall i drop the EQ, raise telma or nebivolol

Whatever you change, change/alter one variable at a time. Start with one BP med then re-assess. Or, add med like @MyNameIsJeff suggested and re-assess. "Isolated systolic hypertension" ("ISH") should be concerning. A raise in overall BP caused from gear is common. However, ISH is originating from your body, not from gear.

My understanding of deca is that it can also contribute to stress on CV system & raising BP. Deca may also impact your non-existant cardio. You're running just over a gram of sauce... you need some sort of cardio to ease the stress on your CV system.

 

[ErectionAdvisor]

Cardio i dont do enough i know its not good but i don't have alot off free time so most time i have goes to training 4 days a week 75 min and mealprep

Diet is around 5500 kcal 80% clean
Little sugur intra and post workout


Hydration i drink around 3.5 to 4.5 l water

Cardio needs to be a priority. Either make time for it, or accept BP will be higher without it than with.

Make sure electrolytes are proper as well. Additionally not a lot of water imo unless you hardly ever break a sweat.

 

[Lifting88]

Whatever you change, change/alter one variable at a time. Start with one BP med then re-assess. Or, add med like @MyNameIsJeff suggested and re-assess. "Isolated systolic hypertension" ("ISH") should be concerning. A raise in overall BP caused from gear is common. However, ISH is originating from your body, not from gear.

My understanding of deca is that it can also contribute to stress on CV system & raising BP. Deca may also impact your non-existant cardio. You're running just over a gram of sauce... you need some sort of cardio to ease the stress on your CV system.

Yes but i think its the eq
Last time i run test npp mast hgh and bloodpressure was great

But mast is nice for e2 control but i dont think it built alot of muscle

Thats why i try bold this time to try

Tren is hars on the body so i don t use it
Primo kills my libido on every ratio

 

[Jin23]

Seeing how systolic is more elevated while diastolic remains relatively stable I'd say focus on lowering sympathetic tone.

Idk how you upped your GH dose, was it a straight jump from 3 to 6 or a slow gradual increase, but there is an initial increase in cardiac output when starting GH which does increase sys more then dia. But the body adjusts to this over time, seeing how you are 5 weeks in your cycle, the adjustment period might be over. But I'm not that familiar with this timeline, so it's purely speculation on my end

Either way, it's a combination of all factors, as both aas and gh contribute to an increase in cardiac output.

However, it will take a lot of time for the EQ to clear your system, thus lowering GH might be the quickest test you can perform.

And as has already been mentioned, your dose of telmisartan is still considered to be low.

 

[Lifting88]

@Lifting88 how's your BP now?

Still the same

Last night i took 5mg nebivolol instead off 2.5 mg to see if thats helping but at night i went out of bed to pie and almost pass out.. so dizzy black vision

Feel terrable today and dizzy light headed

I start cardio next week with telmisartan 40 maybe 80 if bloodpressure stays high its time to cruise till everthing is good again

Its not worth feeling terrible on meds haha i hope tomorrow things are better again

 

[DugPrime]

Still the same

Last night i took 5mg nebivolol instead off 2.5 mg to see if thats helping but at night i went out of bed to pie and almost pass out.. so dizzy black vision

Feel terrable today and dizzy light headed

I start cardio next week with telmisartan 40 maybe 80 if bloodpressure stays high its time to cruise till everthing is good again

Its not worth feeling terrible on meds haha i hope tomorrow things are better again

IMO drop the nebivolol and start 80mg of Telmisartan tomorrow, cardio won't do shit for maintaining an healthy BP 24/7.

 

[dontletheoldmanin]

For bP meds try looking into these natural sups that may just help you out, one is more so colestoral but helps.

citrus bergamot
astragalus
carditone

Also grab some hibiscus flower and add it to your water. You'll be surprised but it's a huge help and works quickly.

 

[Jin23]

Still the same

Last night i took 5mg nebivolol instead off 2.5 mg to see if thats helping but at night i went out of bed to pie and almost pass out.. so dizzy black vision

Feel terrable today and dizzy light headed

I start cardio next week with telmisartan 40 maybe 80 if bloodpressure stays high its time to cruise till everthing is good again

Its not worth feeling terrible on meds haha i hope tomorrow things are better again

Looks like nebivolol might have messed up your baroreceptor reflex response causing orthostatic hypotension. Stick to your plan on increasing telmisartan, as it does lower systolic pressure more then diastolic.

Seeing how your blood pressure isn't particularly healthy (high pulse pressure) even when off cycle, Potentially suggesting arterial stiffness, endothelial dysfunction, etc. you might wanna reconsider moderate aas use altogether.

Have you ever measured your aldosterone/renin levels off cycle?

 

[Lifting88]

Looks like nebivolol might have messed up your baroreceptor reflex response causing orthostatic hypotension. Stick to your plan on increasing telmisartan, as it does lower systolic pressure more then diastolic.

Seeing how your blood pressure isn't particularly healthy (high pulse pressure) even when off cycle, Potentially suggesting arterial stiffness, endothelial dysfunction, etc. you might wanna reconsider moderate aas use altogether.

Have you ever measured your aldosterone/renin levels off cycle?

normaly my bloodpressure is ok
Last cycle it was 115/125 65/70

No never check i think