High concentration test in ethyl oleate

[Whoremoans]

I have some 450mg per ML testosterone that uses EO as the carrier and I was just wondering what the likelihood was that this stuff is dosed properly. Is it possible for EO to make high concentration gear like this virtually pipless?

 

[biggerben69]

I will say that, yes, it is possible. I've used test @400mg/ml(200test E and 200 test C). I can't say I saw mass specs etc. I will say that if there isn't a level of discomfort then you are dealing with an under dosed product. The brewer who puts out the test I used has a link to a spot that sells filtered gso to mix if the pip is too much.

 

[Whoremoans]

Well there is some pip but it's not the worst I've ever had. I was under the impression that EO when used as a carrier reduced pip in high concentration gear though?

 

[biggerben69]

Well there is some pip but it's not the worst I've ever had. I was under the impression that EO when used as a carrier reduced pip in high concentration gear though?

I don't know if its to reduce pip, specifically, or to hold higher dosed gear in solvent. Its a solvent used by some compound pharmacies as a vehicle to deliver IM drugs, specifically, progesterone. The FDA hasn't approved it yet.

 

[biggerben69]

A decent % of guys I talk to and read about can't use gear that uses EO because of adverse reactions. Meaning more painful injections than without EO.

 

[Big_paul]

I have some 450mg per ML testosterone that uses EO as the carrier and I was just wondering what the likelihood was that this stuff is dosed properly. Is it possible for EO to make high concentration gear like this virtually pipless?

The only time I ever used it , I shot a delt, and when I woke up the next day , my shoulder was deformed the swelling was so bad. Nothing painless for me. Everyone is different though.

 

[Whoremoans]

I don't know if its to reduce pip, specifically, or to hold higher dosed gear in solvent. Its a solvent used by some compound pharmacies as a vehicle to deliver IM drugs, specifically, progesterone. The FDA hasn't approved it yet.

I've read that it does both pretty well but apparently some people don't react well to the stuff. But it's not approved by the fda? Well how about that.. I guess I'm not too concerned, trenbolone is either lol.

 

[Whoremoans]

The only time I ever used it , I shot a delt, and when I woke up the next day , my shoulder was deformed the swelling was so bad. Nothing painless for me. Everyone is different though.

I guess time will tell the tale for me whether or not I tollerate it well. If I wake up tomorrow and I feel like somebody cracked me in the ass with a bat I'll have my answer lol.

 

[biggerben69]

I've read that it does both pretty well but apparently some people don't react well to the stuff. But it's not approved by the fda? Well how about that.. I guess I'm not too concerned, trenbolone is either lol.

Correct, but can be used and is used by US compounding pharms.

 

[XKawN]

I've only met one person personally that doesn't tolerate eo well. I use 100% eo in all my gear. I love it. You can get a higher amount of product to hold in solution and with less pip if you tolerate it well. There's only one way to find out. Also, the carrier is very thin so you can easily use a 27g needle to pin with.

 

[gr8steak]

I often wonder how many people think they have bad reactions to eo and how many actually do. If you think about it when you go to a src with a pip complaint first response is that it was probably your technique and the next is that it must just be you or your lack of experience and you have to get used to it. How many guys I wonder go to the source about major pip and they say well yoj must be allergic to eo. Of course you won't buy anything with eo in it snymore cause you don't want pip but most likely it was just shitty gear, poorly beewed or bad raws. I've ran plenty of gear with eo as carrier, got pip from some brands and none with others. Not saying some people don't have a bad reaction just wondering if its as widespread as we would believe

 

[biggerben69]

Many labs that are worth their salt will state which products they carry contain EO. Many labs don't use the shit at all.
Personally, I don't mind the stuff. It's not necessary with products that are dosed reasonably. The guys that I know are experienced users. I don't call the discomfort/reaction from EO PIP. I don't know if it fits within the parameters of the accepted definition but it doesn't fit mine.
Virgin muscle, technique, and a low pain threshold to high dosed gear are reasons/cause PIP. The pain/reaction guys experience from EO or any other "Super Solvent" that comes down the road later on is an entirely different animal.

 

[Big_paul]

I guess time will tell the tale for me whether or not I tollerate it well. If I wake up tomorrow and I feel like somebody cracked me in the ass with a bat I'll have my answer lol.

A lot of guys react that way with that carrier. Cyp and prop are hard to disolve. using cyp, I can brew 300 tops. Using prop 150. thats using only bb.

 

[Whoremoans]

Well, I pinned both glutes with it, left yesterday and right today. No out of the ordinary discomfort, and I managed to get through a long session of squats and deadlifts tonight, so I'd say EO is fine with me.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Well, I pinned both glutes with it, left yesterday and right today. No out of the ordinary discomfort, and I managed to get through a long session of squats and deadlifts tonight, so I'd say EO is fine with me.

Not sure what's in my prop 200 but I'm literally crippled and sick. What Evs it is, it's fuck'n toxic. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the pain, I'm at an 7.5 to 8. First 2 weeks of my cycle I used a 400 mg/ml test blend and and it had a little bite. I could deal with it tho. This prop 200... Unforgiving and brutal. This amount of pain is worth no gains in the world. Again, I'm not sure what is used to get it to hold at 200mg/ml...

 

[Whoremoans]

Not sure what's in my prop 200 but I'm literally crippled and sick. What Evs it is, it's fuck'n toxic. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the pain, I'm at an 7.5 to 8. First 2 weeks of my cycle I used a 400 mg/ml test blend and and it had a little bite. I could deal with it tho. This prop 200... Unforgiving and brutal. This amount of pain is worth no gains in the world. Again, I'm not sure what is used to get it to hold at 200mg/ml...

There's a good chance they used EO for 200mg/ml prop

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

I used alot of gear with eo as a carrier and never had a problem , I really only had one bad experience with pip it was a dragon pharma cut mix tren acate , test prop and mast prop. that shit was crippling I made it through a bottle at 1ml eod and gave the rest away my friend did 1 ml and threw it out and said I was nuts for running it as long as I didn't know about tren cough and every shot I felt like the worst ashma attack ever fucking felt like I was gonna cough up a lung. Not to stray from topic but eo treats me right no complaints.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

There's a good chance they used EO for 200mg/ml prop

The src I got it from had prop 200 with Eo for 20$ more so I'm guessing this mite not have it. It's turning the slightest red color now. I feel like there is a softball size lump in there. "Glute area" It does feel slightly better tho. I don't feel as fuck'd off as last nite.

 

[Whoremoans]

The src I got it from had prop 200 with Eo for 20$ more so I'm guessing this mite not have it. It's turning the slightest red color now. I feel like there is a softball size lump in there. "Glute area" It does feel slightly better tho. I don't feel as fuck'd off as last nite.

I can only imagine the pip from 200mg/ml prop without EO.. God be with you lol.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

I can only imagine the pip from 200mg/ml prop without EO.. God be with you lol.

Do you know what else they put in this stuff to get it to hold? What could make me feel like death?