Homebrewed my first cycle

[Usmc88]

Chickened out on left quad. Did legs today and it was way to tight to try. Pinned right after the gym. Practice holding the syringe and going through the motions. It helped me. No pip yet 1cc test e

Why not pin before the gym? I thought that was standard practice to work the muscle you pin. Wondering how long it usually takes for the body to adapt to the esters breaking down and the "virgin muscle" effect to go away

 

[Sk8man101]

A.i. on hand depending on water retention or other sides as well as mid cycle bloods is if ill take it. Didnt order hcg yet but planned on taking it on cycle starting after the 2nd week. Wont happen now so probably use it at the end and through pct along with Clomid and nolva. Dont remember the exact dosing protocol i decided on but its pretty basic 4 week pct

I wouldn't use the Hcg threw your pct, just use Hcg up untill your last pin of test e. I'm sure others will agree.

 

[Just Fish]

Why not pin before the gym? I thought that was standard practice to work the muscle you pin. Wondering how long it usually takes for the body to adapt to the esters breaking down and the "virgin muscle" effect to go away

Didn't want it to affect my leg workout in case I got bad pip lol. Weather to pin before or after the gym especially on leg day is a good question. The research I did most said pin after legs.

Wondering how long it usually takes for the body to adapt to the esters breaking down and the "virgin muscle" effect to go away
I am very curious to find this answer myself. I think you just get used to the pain or build a tolerance. I might be wrong though. I never looked into it. I figured I'd find out when it happened lol.

 

[Usmc88]

Didn't want it to affect my leg workout in case I got bad pip lol. Weather to pin before or after the gym especially on leg day is a good question. The research I did most said pin after legs.

Wondering how long it usually takes for the body to adapt to the esters breaking down and the "virgin muscle" effect to go away
I am very curious to find this answer myself. I think you just get used to the pain or build a tolerance. I might be wrong though. I never looked into it. I figured I'd find out when it happened lol.

I think legs would be a good day to pin before the gym but i havent been getting pip until about 24hrs after. I hope this shit doesnt stay the same haha I'm gonna try something next pin and I'll let you know if it helps.

 

[Usmc88]

I wouldn't use the Hcg threw your pct, just use Hcg up untill your last pin of test e. I'm sure others will agree.

Actually I've seen more of the exact opposite but i see the benefits of the use during both. If I'm not mistaken its suggested in at least one popular pct protocol around here

 

[Baxter513-proton]

THeres not consensus on PCT protocol, ask a million gurus and get a million different answers.

For my cycle I am planning Clomid 50/25/25/25 and not using any Nolva

I am using Aromasin during cycle. No estrogen rebound and no need for Nolva

I am going to start Aromasin on week 2 at minimal dose of 5mg per day Everyday. Will pull bloods on week 5 and see how E2 is doing. Of course if I feel itchy nips or feel any gyno sides I will up the dosage at once.

 

[Just Fish]

THeres not consensus on PCT protocol, ask a million gurus and get a million different answers.

For my cycle I am planning Clomid 50/25/25/25 and not using any Nolva

I am using Aromasin during cycle. No estrogen rebound and no need for Nolva

I am going to start Aromasin on week 2 at minimal dose of 5mg per day Everyday. Will pull bloods on week 5 and see how E2 is doing. Of course if I feel itchy nips or feel any gyno sides I will up the dosage at once.

Estrogen rebound=Bull shit

 

[Just Fish]

I think legs would be a good day to pin before the gym but i havent been getting pip until about 24hrs after. I hope this shit doesnt stay the same haha I'm gonna try something next pin and I'll let you know if it helps.

Doing back extensions today I did feel it a little bit. But only from the pad pressing on that spot with a lot of pressure. Not much worse then the quad pain from legs the previous day though. Shit always kills doing extensions after leg day lol

 

[Baxter513-proton]

Estrogen rebound=Bull shit

Yes correct. No estrogen rebound with Aromasin. Is there an echo in here?

 

[benchyourmom]

I think i could really use a picture of someone pinning quads that doesnt get much pip. I wanna know the exact location and angle of penetration. What did you pin?

Put your hands like they are in your front jean pockets pin around your nail on ring finger or pinky. Was told this by another member and never have bad pins. Virgin muscle is real though, sometimes it can just be that or your gear.

 

[benchyourmom]

Why not pin before the gym? I thought that was standard practice to work the muscle you pin. Wondering how long it usually takes for the body to adapt to the esters breaking down and the "virgin muscle" effect to go away

Soon you won't even remember having pip as long as your gear is pip free!

 

[benchyourmom]

I wouldn't use the Hcg threw your pct, just use Hcg up untill your last pin of test e. I'm sure others will agree.

I'd use hcg till start of Nolva, Clomid.

 

[Usmc88]

Soon you won't even remember having pip as long as your gear is pip free!

I hope your right haha. Next batch will have EO only didnt use it this time cuz i was thinking of sharing

 

[benchyourmom]

THeres not consensus on PCT protocol, ask a million gurus and get a million different answers.

For my cycle I am planning Clomid 50/25/25/25 and not using any Nolva

I am using Aromasin during cycle. No estrogen rebound and no need for Nolva

I am going to start Aromasin on week 2 at minimal dose of 5mg per day Everyday. Will pull bloods on week 5 and see how E2 is doing. Of course if I feel itchy nips or feel any gyno sides I will up the dosage at once.

AI depends your aas dosage and your body. I wouldn't take any AI till you run mid cycle bloods and see where your levels are at. I don't need AI till I use around 750mg a week Test. I also like to be on the high end of estro scale. Libido stays strong and joints stay lubed! I'd rather be a little high estro than a little low!

 

[Roger rabbit]

AI depends your aas dosage and your body. I wouldn't take any AI till you run mid cycle bloods and see where your levels are at. I don't need AI till I use around 750mg a week Test. I also like to be on the high end of estro scale. Libido stays strong and joints stay lubed! I'd rather be a little high estro than a little low!

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[benchyourmom]

I hope your right haha. Next batch will have EO only didnt use it this time cuz i was thinking of sharing

You don't need EO for test. Just keep it 250mg/ml Test E and 100mg/ml Test P. Around 1-1.5% BA in both and should be pip free. Get bloods done if you need a higher dosage pin more oil. I'd rather have smooth gear and pin more than have rough strong gear and pin less!

 

[Usmc88]

You don't need EO for test. Just keep it 250mg/ml Test E and 100mg/ml Test P. Around 1-1.5% BA in both and should be pip free. Get bloods done if you need a higher dosage pin more oil. I'd rather have smooth gear and pin more than have rough strong gear and pin less!

I hear ya i guess it depends on how my body adapts. I might have to try cyp cuz maybe its the enan ester idk. Time will tell. What forum would be a good one to pose the question as to average length of time dealing with virgin muscle?

 

[benchyourmom]

Prop hurts more! Nature of the beast! Enan should be painless. Pin your ass, I waited forever to pin my ass due to not being able to reach it well! Big mistake, ass is the best spot hands down and I pin everything! Quads are a spot that are ok when you stop caring about pip! Seriously you get numb to pip eventually when you stop wondering if you're going to have it. When I pin I never even think about pip anymore.

 

[benchyourmom]

I did hit some Tren Ace that was severely overdosed that gave me pip bad. There was no denying that shit! No matter where you put it you were crippled! Had to add some oil to the mix to tame it down!

 

[Usmc88]

Prop hurts more! Nature of the beast! Enan should be painless. Pin your ass, I waited forever to pin my ass due to not being able to reach it well! Big mistake, ass is the best spot hands down and I pin everything! Quads are a spot that are ok when you stop caring about pip! Seriously you get numb to pip eventually when you stop wondering if you're going to have it. When I pin I never even think about pip anymore.

Lol my prop hurts less and for less than half the time. My ass is currently still healing from my 1ml of enan on sat night/sun morning little after midnight i think.