Hometown Powders Introduction

That's well put Denver. That's exactly how my boys and I are sourcing now. Keeping it local, one of them is assuming the risk on receiving raws we don't have the ability to get purity, but bloods and labmax should suffice.

To my friends, it's just a hobby. To these ugls, they all have to have a exit strategy.
 
I really don't think there will ever be a dependable source here. You might get one for a while, but it will stop at some point. I think the government may overlook some of these ugl's for a while, but they will not do that forever, so the ugl is trying to guess how long he can go before the door is shut. For some that'll be a week. Some might push it for a year or two, but they all intend on bailing at some point.

Only way I'll consider buying anything here will be if I am fortunate enough to find someone who does not need to sell to make a living, who only sells to a small number of people (20-25), all the "members" are known among each other, the size of the order is limited, and the supplier allows you to pay after delivery. At first you might think there will be no one who will operate that way, but I think there are probably a fair number of people who would be willing to work that way just to make enough to pay for their use with a little extra for themselves.
exactly. Well put.
 
Ill still keep my eyes open, but after reading some of the stories, I guess I'm pretty lucky to have my current local ugl. Paying $120 for 20 ml of any liquid isn't that bad of a price when I know I am getting something that I know is clean, dosed properly and is backed with a guarantee. I do admit, though, home brewing is kind of fun.
 
Just a quick update. At this moment no package has landed. It isn't what we wanted, but it is what we expected. I hope with this experience, it will help make us more proactive with the code of conduct and a little bit better a catching someone giving us the soft con. I know that I'm going to be a lot more vigilant. I'd also like to add, there is no way in hell that I would ever rep again. I genuinely thought that I was helping out--but in reality, I was being played as well, as a diversion. This just makes me sick. I really wish that I could have caught on sooner and shut this place down sooner. I guess one consolation that I can take away from this experience is that, I didn't hesitate shutting this down when I felt it had gone bad, and I hope that my action at least saved some of my meso brothers from falling victim to this scammer. As for my other brothers who did get scammed, I'm sorry it happened to you, nobody deserve to be scammed!

All the best to everyone,
Tipdog
 
Just a quick update. At this moment no package has landed. It isn't what we wanted, but it is what we expected. I hope with this experience, it will help make us more proactive with the code of conduct and a little bit better a catching someone giving us the soft con. I know that I'm going to be a lot more vigilant. I'd also like to add, there is no way in hell that I would ever rep again. I genuinely thought that I was helping out--but in reality, I was being played as well, as a diversion. This just makes me sick. I really wish that I could have caught on sooner and shut this place down sooner. I guess one consolation that I can take away from this experience is that, I didn't hesitate shutting this down when I felt it had gone bad, and I hope that my action at least saved some of my meso brothers from falling victim to this scammer. As for my other brothers who did get scammed, I'm sorry it happened to you, nobody deserve to be scammed!

All the best to everyone,
Tipdog
I think you did the best job possible in an impossible situation. I think we all appreciate your efforts.
It is hard to know anything about a person if you can't see their eyes and facial expressions. You get this screen that is in front of us with words and pictures and hope for the best from this crazy internet machine.

IMHO, you did fine.
 
I think you did the best job possible in an impossible situation. I think we all appreciate your efforts.
It is hard to know anything about a person if you can't see their eyes and facial expressions. You get this screen that is in front of us with words and pictures and hope for the best from this crazy internet machine.

IMHO, you did fine.
Thank you
 
I want to tell you all one thing.. I watched this guys thread from the VERY FIRST PAGE.. Back when he came in here and had the best attitude id seen out of a source in a minute. Everything looked good. What have i learned from this, that re-confirmed what i already knew? ALL SOURCES ARE BAD DEEP DOWN. No matter what, every single source is bad, it is a gamble with every single one. It does not matter how reputable your source is, how long they have been around, how their attitude is...


They all intend on leaving the game.

There are no friends in the game. This is not a legitimate business. All of these sources want to make their money, then get out.


Simple as that. If you can't handle that fact, then your looking at the wrong lifestyle bud.
 
I want to tell you all one thing.. I watched this guys thread from the VERY FIRST PAGE.. Back when he came in here and had the best attitude id seen out of a source in a minute. Everything looked good. What have i learned from this, that re-confirmed what i already knew? ALL SOURCES ARE BAD DEEP DOWN. No matter what, every single source is bad, it is a gamble with every single one. It does not matter how reputable your source is, how long they have been around, how their attitude is...


They all intend on leaving the game.

There are no friends in the game. This is not a legitimate business. All of these sources want to make their money, then get out.


Simple as that. If you can't handle that fact, then your looking at the wrong lifestyle bud.

Well said, Eminem93.

I think most sources realize that they're going to get pinched if they stay in the game for too long, so they have a game plan on when they'll bail right when they open up shop. Too...it seems like the vast majority sell pretty low-quality products and there's no way anyone can stay in the game selling underdosed, low quality stuff. That's probably another reason they bail. They know they're selling junk and it's just a matter of time until someone gets wise.
 
Yeah but that is still no excuse. If you are worried about getting pinched then pick a day that you will start taking orders, and pick a day that you will stop taking orders. Do good business for a month, and shut it down, after that, pick a day that you want to start back up. Drug dealers have to worry about going to jail every day, but I still used to know decent people who delivered and If they ended up getting screwed they sucked it up and took the hit, they didn't end up selling it. To say that every source is bad, IMHO is bullshit. People just aren't smart and don't know how to take on such a business. So they end up screwing themselves, and in the process screw their customers. They don't understand that they will begin to get overrun and they will start doing sloppy business. If you realize this in the beginning, you can be a very good source. You can be a very efficient source. If I ever had I lab, I would never screw anybody, if my raws were questionable, my hand on the bible, I wouldn't use them. Period. I can't be the only person in the world that sees it this way. There are good sources out there. Surely not ALL of them are bad.
 
Because he lied and said the orders were sent when nothing went out. Dont conflate this into "every source is bad in the end" because thats BS and is making an excuse for this POS. I have in the past received very good gear from UGL suppliers. He was never a good source. This guy was a scammer from the beginning not some guy whose business spiralled out of control.

There are a ton of scammers on here.
 
I want to tell you all one thing.. I watched this guys thread from the VERY FIRST PAGE.. Back when he came in here and had the best attitude id seen out of a source in a minute. Everything looked good. What have i learned from this, that re-confirmed what i already knew? ALL SOURCES ARE BAD DEEP DOWN. No matter what, every single source is bad, it is a gamble with every single one. It does not matter how reputable your source is, how long they have been around, how their attitude is...


They all intend on leaving the game.

There are no friends in the game. This is not a legitimate business. All of these sources want to make their money, then get out.


Simple as that. If you can't handle that fact, then your looking at the wrong lifestyle bud.

I agree with Eminem, I think that he is dead on, I have yet to see him proven wrong from my own personal experience, observation of other people and through reflection, what he said not only goes for gear and suppliers, it goes for people and every aspect of life, every human that has ever existed, exists and will exist is like that except for me.
 
There are some really good points from people here--but this shop is closed. Nobody has received their gear. Can we let this thread die?

Cheers,
Tipdog
 
Is it just me or did this guy seem especially fake, inexperienced, and financially unprepared for this biz from the git go.
 
OTE="tipdog, post: 1074764, member: 16656"]Just a quick update. At this moment no package has landed. It isn't what we wanted, but it is what we expected. I hope with this experience, it will help make us more proactive with the code of conduct and a little bit better a catching someone giving us the soft con. I know that I'm going to be a lot more vigilant. I'd also like to add, there is no way in hell that I would ever rep again. I genuinely thought that I was helping out--but in reality, I was being played as well, as a diversion. This just makes me sick. I really wish that I could have caught on sooner and shut this place down sooner. I guess one consolation that I can take away from this experience is that, I didn't hesitate shutting this down when I felt it had gone bad, and I hope that my action at least saved some of my meso brothers from falling victim to this scammer. As for my other brothers who did get scammed, I'm sorry it happened to you, nobody deserve to be scammed!

All the best to everyone,
Tipdog[/QUOTE]
Could have happened to any of us. I have 50 g of something. I haven't even opened it yet.
 
Paul i hope you got lucky as i did. So far it looks like if you received something it may be ok, but i look forward to hearing if what you got was what you ordered. i didn't even labmax mine as i was down to one kit and was saving it for the test i was also going to order.
 
OTE="tipdog, post: 1074764, member: 16656"]Just a quick update. At this moment no package has landed. It isn't what we wanted, but it is what we expected. I hope with this experience, it will help make us more proactive with the code of conduct and a little bit better a catching someone giving us the soft con. I know that I'm going to be a lot more vigilant. I'd also like to add, there is no way in hell that I would ever rep again. I genuinely thought that I was helping out--but in reality, I was being played as well, as a diversion. This just makes me sick. I really wish that I could have caught on sooner and shut this place down sooner. I guess one consolation that I can take away from this experience is that, I didn't hesitate shutting this down when I felt it had gone bad, and I hope that my action at least saved some of my meso brothers from falling victim to this scammer. As for my other brothers who did get scammed, I'm sorry it happened to you, nobody deserve to be scammed!

All the best to everyone,
Tipdog
Could have happened to any of us. I have 50 g of something. I haven't even opened it yet.[/QUOTE]
When did you order??
 
Paul i hope you got lucky as i did. So far it looks like if you received something it may be ok, but i look forward to hearing if what you got was what you ordered. i didn't even labmax mine as i was down to one kit and was saving it for the test i was also going to order.
I believe that dbol was the only questionable powder. But yes, it would be best to labmax it anyway.
 
Not really necessary. I used it for 6 weeks then i was done. I was using it as a test run to order test in a larger amount. 20 pounds after 2 weeks told me it was solid enough at 33mg(best guess) a day. I mixed it in everclear at 33mg/cc, but who knows what the purity was. My best guess is that it was fairly good, because of the gains at that dosage compared to what i have gotten in the past.Noticed gains and sides at 6 days, which is fairly standard for me. Got the usual boost on the weights. Figured the orals were the easiest to road test and also decided if i couldn't trust him with that then i wouldn't bother with anything else. Lost half of it after ceasing from water weight and all is back to normal.

Turns out that he flaked before i was willing to pull the trigger, so bullet dodged i suppose.
 
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