how big should I end up

[wic2111]

i am currently 285 with a BF% around 23%. I say around cause it goes up and down from week to week by like 1%. Any how I was wondering about what wieght you guys think I should be carrying with around a 10%-15%. I am still currently in a bulker. I was just wondering. Thanks

 

[MANWHORE]

they'll probably want to know how tall you are too

 

[thick]

Right now you have 66 lbs of fat more or less. If you get down to 250 pounds at 15% you will have 37.5 pounds of fat if at 10% you would have 25 pounds of fat. So to weigh 250 at 15% you would need to lose 28-29 pounds of fat. To stay at 285 and be 15% you need to lose about 23lbs of fat and replace it with 23 lbs of muscle. Is this what you are asking ?

they'll probably want to know how tall you are too

 

[MANWHORE]

OK so no one cares how tall you are.

 

[Grizzly]

Are you using one of those electric bf scales? To lose and gain 1% bf/wk you would have to lose and gain 2.85lbs each week and, if you're bulking, you shouldn't be losing any weight, period. Also, even if you're not using those silly scales, you still shouldn't know what your bf is week to week because you should only be getting it checked once a month if not less frequently.

Also, if your bf really is 23%(which is unlikely if you are, indeed, using those scales) then you really need to change from a bulking diet to a leaning out diet. This is so for several reasons. Number one, 23% is clinically obese. Or maybe it starts at 25% and not 20%, either way, you're pushing severe fat ass. Also, your body accrues a greater percentage of lean mass per pound gained when you are leaner.

 

[wic2111]

thanks griz for the info. I have always held a high bf% when I bulk. i have always had success gaining mass when hold my bf at 18 % to like 25%. I know thats high and clinically obese but its always worked. I have been using my bros skin calpiers to check my bf level i checked over the last 3 weeks to get an idea.

 

[wic2111]

thanks also for your input to Thick bumps for you and Grizzly

 

[wic2111]

OK so no one cares how tall you are.

I am 6 ft tall bro

 

[Desibaba]

Anyone seen lee priest in the off season.You can check flex and muscular development in the twinlab and the muscletech ads to see how he looks like

 

[MANWHORE]

I am 6 ft tall bro

O no,i wasn't being a wise ass,i was just making fun of myself for asking because then Thick answered you without wanting to know your high. Forget it im retarted

 

[Bob Smith]

Without losing any muscle mass, at 15% you would weigh 258 pounds. At 10% you would be 243. Its unlikely to be able to drop upwards of 40 pounds of fat without shedding some muscle in the process. Thats ok, its better to drop the fat and worry about major muscle loss later on. With a proper nutrition setup, its possible to keep muscle loss to a minimum, not taking into account LBM loss through water weight.

 

[thick]

dont be too hard on yourself. Retarted isn't a word as far as I know. Height didn't matter to me when it seemed he was wanting to know about weight in regards to different bf%

O no,i wasn't being a wise ass,i was just making fun of myself for asking because then Thick answered you without wanting to know your high. Forget it im retarted

 

[Grizzly]

Shit, I was thinking about this thread at work last night and now I forget all that I was thinking. Let me see what I can come up with.

Now, I realize that very little of bodybuilding actually has to do with health, particularly if you're trying to become a freak. However, carrying that much bf is detrimental to your health. Clinically obese and using juice. Talk about a recipe for a heart attack.

Similarly, carrying that much bf is counter-intuitive to the premise of bodybuilding that states the purpose is to look good. A 23%er certainly doesn't look good.

As Bob touched upon, gaining that much bf and then trying to lose it is a sure fire way to lose a considerable amount of muscle mass.

Also, to go from 23% to a respectable 10%, even at the optimum speed, will take between 16 and 20 weeks. More than likely, it will take about 25-30 being that weight loss will slow from 2-2.5lbs/wk to more like 1lb/wk towards the latter part of the diet. This is most of the year spent dieting, which prolongs the amount of time it takes to get huge.

On top of this, gaining and losing 40lbs of bf on a regular basis will be hell on your sking. IN the end, it's quite likely that you'll end up with a bag of skin reminiscent of the pouch that former fat ass Jared has to be carrying around. You could, of course, get a partial abdomnioplasty, but that will set you back 3-5k which could otherwise be spent on juice to achieve the desired monsterhood.

All in all, I think getting that fat is both counterproductive and just bad. But, if you like it, go ahead, I suppose. It ain't my body.

 

[MANWHORE]

dont be too hard on yourself. Retarted isn't a word as far as I know. Height didn't matter to me when it seemed he was wanting to know about weight in regards to different bf%

Your right i didn't read your post thoroughly. Retarted is just a nicer way of saying i'm retarded

 

[wic2111]

haha I never intended to get up over 20% just kinda happend ya know

 

[Grizzly]

Yeah, I know how that works. I'm an eater, myself. Honestly, then, the best bet is to start dieting now. Put the gaining on hold until you've attained a respectable bf.

 

[Bob Smith]

Good idea, Grizz. I would suggest getting down towards 10-12% before focusing on packing on the mass.

 

[wic2111]

I guess its easy to what your good at and not do what you have a real challenge at sometimes. I gain mass real easy but its always with fat. I have not used gear yet. I have gotten some winny tabs, clen, and I am in the process of considering something like T-3 or DNP. I have been researching for a while. I got out of the Marines 2 years ago and have been putting on mass ever since. I made a deal with my wife that I would cut up for the summer time. Plus she is tired of me eating us out of house and home. I have read as many threads as I could from Bob and Grizz. You guys are amazing with the amount of knowledge you guys have. You guys could probably make a REAL hardcore training manual and make some good funds for yorselves!! I am once agian wanted to BUMP you guys for all your help.

 

[Grizzly]

Awwww, shucks, I'm blushing.

Ok, here's some more for you. Winny: forget it. I know everyone associates it with dieting and all, but it's only genuinely effective when your bf is about 10% or less. On top of that, it doesn't have a fat burning property, so I wouldn't count on it leaning you out if I was you.

Clen: Personally, I think you would do just as good, if not better, with an ECA stack. I don't think clen is all it's cracked up to be. But, a lot of people do like it, so you never know. I would most definitely stack it with T3, though.

DNP- Tough call there. I'm not sure a total newbie should jump right into the DNP, but it is what the doctor ordered in this case.

Basically, you just need to find a good diet and training program and you'll shrink down plenty fine.

I'm sure Bob will be on here setting you up with a diet in a minuter or two. Let's see if he pops up.

 

[wic2111]

Awwww, shucks, I'm blushing.

Ok, here's some more for you. Winny: forget it. I know everyone associates it with dieting and all, but it's only genuinely effective when your bf is about 10% or less. On top of that, it doesn't have a fat burning property, so I wouldn't count on it leaning you out if I was you.

Clen: Personally, I think you would do just as good, if not better, with an ECA stack. I don't think clen is all it's cracked up to be. But, a lot of people do like it, so you never know. I would most definitely stack it with T3, though.

DNP- Tough call there. I'm not sure a total newbie should jump right into the DNP, but it is what the doctor ordered in this case.

Basically, you just need to find a good diet and training program and you'll shrink down plenty fine.

I'm sure Bob will be on here setting you up with a diet in a minuter or two. Let's see if he pops up.

Thanks agian you guys are awesome BUMP