How do you start deadlifting.

Heavy weight at high volume is asking for serious injury.
Likely but fuck I love rack pulls, pulling close to maximal weight for double digit numbers is nuts, shit is the best bodybuilding back exercise. Not like it's gonna help conventional deadlifting a lot if at all but it's a great addition for "powerbuilders" or just regular old school bodybuilders lifting heavy.
On topic, be careful which videos and guides are you gonna watch because there is lots of different opinions out on how a correct conventional deadlift must be performed, personally my preferred form for when I am asked how would be Sheiko's explanation or Mike Tuchscherer eventho I am lifting with a rounded back more like George Leeman and Benedikt Magnusson do.
 
I use an app to log my deadlifts.
Stronglifts
Gives a set of warm up weights too.

He has an overview of how to dead lift.
http://stronglifts.com/deadlift/

And i get what was said about arching the back. I think i dont do that based on the target i pick to stare at. But i might. So ill give it a little more concentration myself to make sure i dont get injured. Im only at about 305. Thanks for that tip.
 
I use an app to log my deadlifts.
Stronglifts
Gives a set of warm up weights too.

He has an overview of how to dead lift.
http://stronglifts.com/deadlift/

And i get what was said about arching the back. I think i dont do that based on the target i pick to stare at. But i might. So ill give it a little more concentration myself to make sure i dont get injured. Im only at about 305. Thanks for that tip.

If your head is pointed up you're basically hyperextending your cervical spine. To quote Rippetoe:


Eyeballs
Eye gaze direction is critical in all barbell exercises, and is the most commonly misunderstood aspect of squatting and deadlifting.

The chest follows the eyes, and the back angle is the chest. It's very important to understand the role of the trunk segment in the mechanical execution of these two lifts in particular, and how the eye gaze direction can affect the physics of the lifts.

Since this is a deadlift article, we'll stay with pulling. If you look up, the vast majority of you will have overextended your cervical spine - your neck.

This seems probably counterproductive, considering the fact that the spine is best loaded in normal anatomical position, the way it's best configured to transmit force between the vertebral bodies spaced apart with intervertebral discs, who like to be loaded in compression the way they're designed to transmit force.

Deadlift-Head-Up.png

Your head actually weighs 5-8% of your bodyweight, and keeping your neck in normal extension maintains the position of more of your body's mass in front of the bar. It actually produces a longer back segment, some of which is then positioned forward of the bar.

We've already observed that you can't pick up a heavy object that's too far "in front" of you, and that more of your mass forward of the bar balances the alignment of the bar's center of mass and that of your body.

Keeping your head in line with your back maintains this mass relationship much better than an overextended cervical spine. This effect is obviously more important in a lighter pull, like a clean or a snatch.

Figure-16.jpg

Now, observe the anatomy of the traps. Note that it has an origin from the base of the skull all the way down to T12, thus making it the longest muscle origin in the human body.

Note that almost all these fibers insert on the spine of the scapula. The traps therefore support the scapula, which articulates with the arm, which holds the bar. The bar therefore hangs from the traps, which hang from the spine, from the base of your skull down to the last vertebra with a rib attached to it.

And you want to lift a heavy weight with the top one-third of your spine in overextension, with your neck curved like a hook? You should probably rethink this decision.

We've already explored the role of the back angle, so do an experiment. Stand up straight and look at the floor about 15 feet in front of you. Note your posture and the weight distribution on your feet against the floor.

Now, look up at the ceiling, the way your high-school football coach told you. "Look up, son! You gotta look up if you wanna go up! I said look up, boy! Look up through the top of your skull!"

Our experience with this little test indicates that about 80% of you will feel your weight go to your toes. This is because your chest follows your eyes, and your back angle follows your chest, and you lean onto your toes to compensate so you don't fall backwards.

If this happens at the bottom of the pull (or the squat) when your knees and hips are in flexion, the result will be that the hips move forward a little, since "the back bone's connected to the hip bone."

And since "the hip bone's connected to the knee bone," the knees will move forward a little too. This closes the knee angle and distally slacks the hamstrings, which you're trying to use to support the moment arm on the hips.

If you have trouble in the middle of a pull, check your eye gaze direction and see if you're looking up. If so, try fixing your gaze on a point on the floor that holds your chest in the best position to use your back angle for the pull.
 
If your head is pointed up you're basically hyperextending your cervical spine. To quote Rippetoe:


Eyeballs
Eye gaze direction is critical in all barbell exercises, and is the most commonly misunderstood aspect of squatting and deadlifting.

The chest follows the eyes, and the back angle is the chest. It's very important to understand the role of the trunk segment in the mechanical execution of these two lifts in particular, and how the eye gaze direction can affect the physics of the lifts.

Since this is a deadlift article, we'll stay with pulling. If you look up, the vast majority of you will have overextended your cervical spine - your neck.

This seems probably counterproductive, considering the fact that the spine is best loaded in normal anatomical position, the way it's best configured to transmit force between the vertebral bodies spaced apart with intervertebral discs, who like to be loaded in compression the way they're designed to transmit force.

Deadlift-Head-Up.png

Your head actually weighs 5-8% of your bodyweight, and keeping your neck in normal extension maintains the position of more of your body's mass in front of the bar. It actually produces a longer back segment, some of which is then positioned forward of the bar.

We've already observed that you can't pick up a heavy object that's too far "in front" of you, and that more of your mass forward of the bar balances the alignment of the bar's center of mass and that of your body.

Keeping your head in line with your back maintains this mass relationship much better than an overextended cervical spine. This effect is obviously more important in a lighter pull, like a clean or a snatch.

Figure-16.jpg

Now, observe the anatomy of the traps. Note that it has an origin from the base of the skull all the way down to T12, thus making it the longest muscle origin in the human body.

Note that almost all these fibers insert on the spine of the scapula. The traps therefore support the scapula, which articulates with the arm, which holds the bar. The bar therefore hangs from the traps, which hang from the spine, from the base of your skull down to the last vertebra with a rib attached to it.

And you want to lift a heavy weight with the top one-third of your spine in overextension, with your neck curved like a hook? You should probably rethink this decision.

We've already explored the role of the back angle, so do an experiment. Stand up straight and look at the floor about 15 feet in front of you. Note your posture and the weight distribution on your feet against the floor.

Now, look up at the ceiling, the way your high-school football coach told you. "Look up, son! You gotta look up if you wanna go up! I said look up, boy! Look up through the top of your skull!"

Our experience with this little test indicates that about 80% of you will feel your weight go to your toes. This is because your chest follows your eyes, and your back angle follows your chest, and you lean onto your toes to compensate so you don't fall backwards.

If this happens at the bottom of the pull (or the squat) when your knees and hips are in flexion, the result will be that the hips move forward a little, since "the back bone's connected to the hip bone."

And since "the hip bone's connected to the knee bone," the knees will move forward a little too. This closes the knee angle and distally slacks the hamstrings, which you're trying to use to support the moment arm on the hips.

If you have trouble in the middle of a pull, check your eye gaze direction and see if you're looking up. If so, try fixing your gaze on a point on the floor that holds your chest in the best position to use your back angle for the pull.
That was a good read and makes perfect sense. Even the looking 15 feet in front of u and then looking up. U can feel the difference big time.
 
I have a hard time paying attention to my form when I watch this vid. All I see is an old guy with twiggy arms and small shoulders. Any and all critiques will be greatly appreciated.


Your not really tightening up before the movement at all. Before you pick up the bar your shoulderblades should be tightened together and down to activate the lats and gotta squeeze the entire core rock solid so you don't get that lower back rounding. Watch Layne Nortons "how to deadlift" as that will get you a decent basis to go off of.
 
1) you began a little too close or the bar. You can see when you bend forward the bar moves. Once you set your feet in place and begin the rest of your setup the bar should not move at all unless you're the type to roll the bar into you just prior to the pull.

The bar should be about mid foot and your feet about 8-14in apart depending on your dimensions and what feels best. When you want to grab the bar you push your knees forward until your shins just slightly touch and graze the bar BUT DONT MOVE THE BAR. Once your shins touch the bar you bend at the waist only until you can grab the bar. You can see in your video you continue to sink your hips to grab the bar and this results in a very low hip position to begin the pull which is a mechanically disadvantageous starting position.

2) as RodgerThat said, you're too loose when you begin the pull. Your shoulders should be in front of the bar and scapula pulled back and retracted. Imagine like you're pinching your shoulder blades or like your trying to trap a big ball between your shoulder blades. Pull all the slack out of the bar and your arms before you begin the lift. This means You pull on the bar without lifting it off the ground to take the slack out and also that your elbows and arms are straight not bent.

3) your pull itself is pretty decent. You kept the bar close to your body to minimize torque and keep center of gravity near the center of your body and over mid foot. You also opened up with knee extension then followed with hip extension which is correct.

4) the deadlift is basically a concentric only exercise. The eccentric is not emphasized. You're lowering it eccentrically after lockout too slowly. Once the weights get heavy this will be a problem. So long as you don't drop the bar from lockout just lower the bar as fast as possible while under control.

Your eccentric looked a bit off as well. You begin the lowering exactly opposite of how you picked the bar up. That means you close your hip angle first or break at the hips and once the bar is below your knees then you close knee angle. You can see in the video how your knees begin to close too early bc for the bar to go below your knees you have to bring it forward to get past them.
 
Thanks for all the input. I will try it again in a few days. I did notice that there was no back pain from going light. I hope this means I can just move up in weight slowly without pain once I get the form down. @Docd187123 I think whenever I ask for advice you should have a standard reply of 'your too loose' before you even see the vid
 
Thanks for all the input. I will try it again in a few days. I did notice that there was no back pain from going light. I hope this means I can just move up in weight slowly without pain once I get the form down. @Docd187123 I think whenever I ask for advice you should have a standard reply of 'your too loose' before you even see the vid

There is no such thing as being too tight in your setup unless it cramps you before you finish the lift lol. ALWAYS work on being tight.
 
I start of by getting butt naked.

I then lather myself in cocoa butter and Vaseline. For the gains of course.

I then load up 6 plates on each side and think about doing it once but don't and just leave the weights there like a B0SS.
I tried doing it that way. ALWAYS load the bar before applying the coco butter and Vaseline if you don't want to run the risk of dropping a plate on your foot
 
:D
Well, I start by bending over awkwardly and rounding as much as possible. Imagine a dog shitting and you have the idea. Then pull with everything you have till some thing snaps. That's how I do it...did it. Now I have back problems for life.
Bawhahaha...I'm crying here! !
 
Random, but I had nowhere to post this. Usually when I DL in just wearing my Nike Fury running shoes. Never had any lifting shoes (got some on order now) and my mom only had one rule. She said "boy, no matter what you do, dont be out there lifting with no shoes on". She was weird like that.

Long story short. I did DL in my socks and it changed EVERYTHING. I felt like the weight went up easier. Had less pressure on my back. I got 3 solid reps at my old 1RM.

No shoes it is!!!
 
Random, but I had nowhere to post this. Usually when I DL in just wearing my Nike Fury running shoes. Never had any lifting shoes (got some on order now) and my mom only had one rule. She said "boy, no matter what you do, dont be out there lifting with no shoes on". She was weird like that.

Long story short. I did DL in my socks and it changed EVERYTHING. I felt like the weight went up easier. Had less pressure on my back. I got 3 solid reps at my old 1RM.

No shoes it is!!!

Closer to the ground the easier the pull as the breaking off the ground is the position you body is in the least efficient position during the lift. Although I would reccomend either deadlift slippers (cost 10 bucks and have grip) or if you enjoy being irresponsible with money and like gear I got some Sabo deadlift shoes and they are second to none on the deadlift and even wide stance squats.
 
Closer to the ground the easier the pull as the breaking off the ground is the position you body is in the least efficient position during the lift. Although I would reccomend either deadlift slippers (cost 10 bucks and have grip) or if you enjoy being irresponsible with money and like gear I got some Sabo deadlift shoes and they are second to none on the deadlift and even wide stance squats.

I ordered some adidas powerlifts. Its just taking awhile to get here. I live far and the time of year. I was thinking of getting some chucks while i wait.

I always knew people said squats and DLs were easier in flat shoes and / or no shoes. But I didnt think the difference was THAT big. Now I know.
 

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