How long can I stay on

[egl75]

I have been on 400 eq/wk and 375 test enan/wk for 13 weeks. I know your not supposed to stay on more than 12 but I want to keep going. Is this safe, what should I do hcg, clomid? change drugs?

 

[jacksauce]

Just remember that the longer you stay on the longer your post therepy will be to get the nads back.

 

[dumbbellpress]

A good plan is 12 weeks on / 9-10 weeks off. It's what I have always done and I have recovered very nicely.

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[Southernjuice]

Your supposed to come off ???!!!!

 

[Big Trav]

For however long you stay on you should stay off for the same amount of time...give or take a couple of weeks...and yes, you should use both clomid and hcg post cycle.

 

[Neodavid]

If it was me, I'd start 250 iu hcg RD immediately for 3 or 4 weeks. Get your nuts back into shape. When you stop the roids (soon hopefully), do hcg for another 2 weeks, and then start clomid for a month.

Don't listen to the bullshit about 1000 iu hcg, or 500 eod, or whatever. It lasts 16 hours in your system, so 250 ED is perfect. It brought be back to full size in 4 weeks, safely.

I have been on 400 eq/wk and 375 test enan/wk for 13 weeks. I know your not supposed to stay on more than 12 but I want to keep going. Is this safe, what should I do hcg, clomid? change drugs?

 

[jboldman]

hcg has a plasma half-life of 33 hours in men, half-life not affected by route of administration. you do the math. 500 eod seems like a far better way of administering it. Hypogonadal men have a recommended dose of 1000-1500 2-3 times a week for several months.

jb

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[Neodavid]

with 16 being about half of 33, I wonder if the info has been misinterpreted.

At any rate, I still think 250 ED is better, because it keeps a more consistent level in the system.

We need someone to get an official doc on this half life maybe.

hcg has a plasma half-life of 33 hours in men, half-life not affected by route of administration. you do the math. 500 eod seems like a far better way of administering it. Hypogonadal men have a recommended dose of 1000-1500 2-3 times a week for several months.

jb

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http://home.intekom.com/pharm/donmed/pregnyl.html

 

[Southernjuice]

I don't see the need or use in HCG post cycle...during the cycle yes but after the cycle it will raise estro levels even higher when your test levels will be at their lowest....can someone explain.

 

[Biggriz]

Get a jump on recovery by not letting the boys deflate...2 - 3 weeks into your cycle use HCG 250 - 500 on the weekends only up until your last inject. Recovery will be a breeze and occur much quicker, your not playing "catch-up" then. The muscle you retain will be proof enough.
HCG IS suppressive....injects for two weeks after will delay recovery and you'll lose more muscle this way....

 

[Neodavid]

Not post cycle, but during the last week as extra test is leaving your body, just before the clomid or Novla should be added. What I mean is, some test is long lasting in the system. Not really 'post' cycle, but after the last shot of juice.

I don't see the need or use in HCG post cycle...during the cycle yes but after the cycle it will raise estro levels even higher when your test levels will be at their lowest....can someone explain.

 

[TheSpectre]

I never get off now. Haven't been off but 30 days (jail time) in the last 3 years.

 

[Silverback]

I never get off now. Haven't been off but 30 days (jail time) in the last 3 years.

What does your last 3 years look like--

Do you cycle heavy then go to low doses of test for "cruises"?
Or what?

I have been on for 4-5 months now-- just looking for other long cycle users info

thanks

 

[lifesabitch]

I have been on 400 eq/wk and 375 test enan/wk for 13 weeks. I know your not supposed to stay on more than 12 but I want to keep going. Is this safe, what should I do hcg, clomid? change drugs?

I thought that the dosage of test was suppose to be higher than the dosage of eq.

 

[wolfman]

Bro, What gear and what amounts have you been running? I'm actually coming off of a 6 month cycle here in a couple-3 weeks. I kept 500mgs. of test enan. as a base and swithched anabolic compounds two or three times throughout. First 4 months were bulking and last 2 months have been dieting. Made Incredible progress with it but I think I'll probably stick with the traditional 12-16 weeker from now on. I'm just crossing my fingers that recovery goes as planned. LMK if you have any q's.

wolfman

What does your last 3 years look like--

Do you cycle heavy then go to low doses of test for "cruises"?
Or what?

I have been on for 4-5 months now-- just looking for other long cycle users info

thanks

 

[Silverback]

Bro, What gear and what amounts have you been running? I'm actually coming off of a 6 month cycle here in a couple-3 weeks. I kept 500mgs. of test enan. as a base and swithched anabolic compounds two or three times throughout. First 4 months were bulking and last 2 months have been dieting. Made Incredible progress with it but I think I'll probably stick with the traditional 12-16 weeker from now on. I'm just crossing my fingers that recovery goes as planned. LMK if you have any q's.

wolfman

I did 10 weeks of deca(400mg) and 750mg of test enanthate for 12 weeks, and since then I have been at 500mg of t enath. alone--
I think I am going to run eithe 250-500mg of tren enanthate and 750-1000mg of enanthate for 12 more weeks then do pct or
750-1000mg of test and 600mg of eq for 12-14 weeks then pct--

Not sure as I am trying to decide if I should bulk or cut--

peace

 

[wolfman]

Bro, that would put your total time on AAS to like 8 months, so just be prepared for the possibility of having a tough time recovering. Best of Luck

wolfman

I did 10 weeks of deca(400mg) and 750mg of test enanthate for 12 weeks, and since then I have been at 500mg of t enath. alone--
I think I am going to run eithe 250-500mg of tren enanthate and 750-1000mg of enanthate for 12 more weeks then do pct or
750-1000mg of test and 600mg of eq for 12-14 weeks then pct--

Not sure as I am trying to decide if I should bulk or cut--

peace

 

[Neodavid]

Someone get Einstien in here to tell us the hpta stuff. What's the diff, Einstien, say between a 12 week cycle, and 36 weeks?

What's that do to your pituitary long run?

He could do hcg to help the nuts mid cycle, would running larger doses of nolva or clomid help keep his pituitary producing LH so it doesn't atrophy beyond recovery?

Or is none of that necessary?

I did 10 weeks of deca(400mg) and 750mg of test enanthate for 12 weeks, and since then I have been at 500mg of t enath. alone--
I think I am going to run eithe 250-500mg of tren enanthate and 750-1000mg of enanthate for 12 more weeks then do pct or
750-1000mg of test and 600mg of eq for 12-14 weeks then pct--

Not sure as I am trying to decide if I should bulk or cut--

peace