Liter O' Test
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youve been banned from other forums
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How much AI do YOU take on these doses test only without DHT
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WesternThighs
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No I haven’t.
HUGE McBIGLARGE
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On 300mg TE per week and 100iu HCG a day I took 2.5mg anastrozole per week and my e2 was still above range lol
WesternThighs
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Every time I take an ai I just feel weaker, flatter and sore joints. I really don’t want to have to take one at 350mg
HUGE McBIGLARGE
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Lower the dose. If you feel worse no matter the dose, don’t take it
My current testosterone dose ranges from 300 to 400 mg testosterone enanthate a week.
Since I don't experience any e2 side effects, I don't use AIs. Using AIs without experiencing e2 side effects is not a smart decision. Why should you use potentially neurotoxic chemicals to suppress a hormone (e2) when that hormone doesn't cause side effects?
If you are tolerant to high e2 and you don't use crazy steroid doses, such as 5 grams of testosterone a week (you don't need such doses if you are not a pro), then you are not likely to need AIs.
Some people, who are uneducated about this, will use AIs even if e2 is within normal reference range or just slightly above it, because they think estrogen is a "female hormone" and you can't be a muscular man if you have estrogen. I personally know people who actually think this is the case.
Estrogen is neuroprotective, low estrogen levels are associated with bad mood, mood swings, erectile dysfunction, cardiovascular issues, hindering of muscle growth, and more...
If you have elevated e2 but don't have e2 side effects, don't use AIs.
My e2 on mentioned testosterone dose is 500 pmol/L. If I use 50-60 mg dianabol a day, it will be 600-750 pmol/L, and I still don't have any e2 side effects.
If I had e2 side effect and money in excess, I would have used primobolan instead of AIs.
Whether AIs are needed depends on individual variability and responses. Some people can tolerate high e2, others can't.
WesternThighs
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Thank you.
I don’t know what this liter o test guy was on about, just a weird dude really
AIs aren't neurotoxic. AIs are also not bad for you. Just don't overdose them and you will be fine. The people who advertise AIs as something bad should really be put down.
OP, it is really imposible to say how much AI you will need on certain doses.
The only advice i can give you is not to listen to the usual "12.5 or 25 mg aromasin twice per week is enough". You will need to find out for yourself how much AI you need, either by bloodwork or feels or both.
If you notice behaving like a little bitch, better take your AI.
WesternThighs
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I mean if even just a small dose like .5mg adex makes me feel like garbage and weakens my performance in the gym I’m better off just letting my e2 run wherever. Like I literally can’t make any progress at all whenever I take AIs, and they cause me to be socially awkward and anxious. I’ll take high e2 over being shy, weak and submissive.
Then you are taking too much. 0.5 mg adex is not a small dosage.
Try aromasin instead and try very small daily dosages. So small you don't feel like garbage after taking it. If not possible with tabs, you can do it with raw powder and micro scoops.
Obviously you should only take it when experiencing high estrogen symptoms.
But letting your estrogen run high all the time because some retards recommend it isn't the best idea. You will possibly end with gyno while behaving like a raging pms woman.
WesternThighs
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Yeah I’m not micro dosing AIs, that’s just doing too much. I like to have fun and take steroids lol. Aromasin is too unpredictable. I’m done with AIs dude, like literally haven’t had any benefits at all, just negative effects.
I see. Enjoy the ride then.
explodingHeart
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What do you take then if not AIs?
Primo is just as unpredictable but like 4x the cost of an AI.
Deca is full of side effects for most people.
Mast is... no one is sure it's even adding muscle.
WesternThighs
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Plenty of guys can just take test and feel fine. Why add or complicate something simple if you’re feeling good with no estro sides? I can take 200-300 mast at most, more just ends up drying me out too much and makes me feel low estro sides.
Deca just sucks for me and adds too much water retention, whereas the water retention I get from test is more subtle and more dictated by diet and nutrition.
Primo just seems like it would be a headache to dial in with mediocre gains.
Maybe I’m just a low aromatizer idk, every e2 sensitive test I’ve gotten was single digits or around 20 at most. A single .5 mg of adex on 700 test brought my e2 down to 3, total test was around 4K. So it blows my mind when I read of guys taking adex or aromasin eod on trt just to stay in range lol. It’s just genetics really.
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explodingHeart
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20s are fine, I can't even tell the difference from 50s aside from more acne. in fact i'd prefer 20s.
if a lot of guys get their E2 to high, they've permanently fucked up their body with gyno
gyno surgeries leave scars and can leave you with fucked up tits
if you go to low e2, just take some dbol or hcg and you're fine in a day
narta
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Don't use ai then. 20 e2 when you are at 1000ng is fine, so is 80 when your test is at 4000ng. It's a ratio not a number
WesternThighs
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@SenorSuperdrol what?
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